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Enoch Powell,speech. 40 years on.



BigGully

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Sep 8, 2006
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"I regard many of the peoples in India as being superior in many respects – intellectually, for example, and in other respects – to Europeans".


Why would you feel so comfortable to regard one ethnic race to being superiour to another ??

That is not Liberalism, that is fascism isnt it ?
 




clapham_gull

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Aug 20, 2003
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Why would you feel so comfortable to regard one ethnic race to being superiour to another ??

That is not Liberalism, that is fascism isnt it ?

That's a quote from Powell defending his speech. Powell was as stated above, full of contradictions. His view from clouded by his time in India. He felt that people of different races and religions were instrinsically different from each other and could NEVER live together.
 
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BigGully

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Sep 8, 2006
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That's a quote from Powell defending his speech. Powell was as stated above, full of contradictions. His view from clouded by his time in India. He felt that people of different races and religions were instrinsically different from each other and could NEVER live together.

Thats a relief .........
 


clapham_gull

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Aug 20, 2003
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They were also mainly unemployed people with no hope and being treated like second class citizens by Anderton's Androids (in Manchester).

.. and it does beg the question why areas like Brixton aren't rioting any more.

The area is far more racially mixed now, than at the time of the riots.
 














Lady Whistledown

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Jul 7, 2003
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Anyway, going back to the English "customs" that people from ethnic minorities must apparently adopt to integrate: which customs were you thinking of?

Morris dancing?

Witch ducking?

Conkers?

Pancake day?
???
 


El Presidente

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Jul 5, 2003
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Pattknull med Haksprut
Anyway, going back to the English "customs" that people from ethnic minorities must apparently adopt to integrate: which customs were you thinking of?
Morris dancing?
Witch ducking?
Conkers?
Pancake day?
???


How about writing off players after ten minutes?
 








SULLY COULDNT SHOOT

Loyal2Family+Albion!
Sep 28, 2004
11,348
Izmir, Southern Turkey
what about st pauls in Bristol and toxteth on mersyside??


From Wikipedia:

The St Pauls riot occurred in St Pauls, Bristol, England.

On April 2, 1980 the police carried out a raid on the Black and White Café located on Grosvenor Road in the heart of St Pauls. It is unclear why the riot started either due to the police ripping a customer's trousers and refusing to pay [1] or they were simply attacked as they removed alcohol from the café. The riot continued for many hours and caused large amounts of damage including a Lloyds Bank and post office. Several fire engines and twelve police cars were damaged along with the shops. One-hundred-and-thirty people were arrested and ninety were charged. The next day the Daily Telegraph headlined with, "19 Police Hurt in Black Riot" and blamed lack of parental care. [2] Nineteen policemen and six other people were taken to hospital, including a cameraman and the photographer from the Western Daily Press; nobody died due to the riots. It is now thought that poverty and the Sus laws were more important causes of the riots than race.[3] The Black & White Café had a notorious reputation as a drug den and was raided more times by the police than any other premises in the country. [4] The council used its powers of compulsory purchase and the building has now been demolished and replaced by new homes.
 




SULLY COULDNT SHOOT

Loyal2Family+Albion!
Sep 28, 2004
11,348
Izmir, Southern Turkey
what about st pauls in Bristol and toxteth on mersyside??

From wikipedia again and suprised you didn't know this...

The Toxteth riots of July 1981 were a civil disturbance in inner-city Liverpool, which arose in part from long-standing tensions between the local police and the black community. They followed the Brixton riots earlier that year.

The Merseyside police force had, at the time, a poor reputation for stopping and searching young black men in the area, under the infamous "sus" laws, and the heavy-handed arrest of Leroy Alphonse Cooper on Friday 3 July, watched by an angry crowd, led to a disturbance in which three policemen were injured.

Over the weekend that followed, disturbance erupted into full-scale rioting, with pitched battles between police and youths in which petrol bombs and paving stones were thrown, and the police employed CS gas for the first time in the UK outside Northern Ireland. In all, the rioting lasted nine days, during which one person died after being struck by a police vehicle attempting to clear crowds, and (according to the police) there were 468 police officers injured, 500 people arrested, and at least 70 buildings demolished. Later estimates suggested the numbers of injured police officers and destroyed buildings were at least double those of the official figures[1].

The riots, like those around the same time in Brixton, Handsworth, and those in 1980 in Bristol, were generally seen as "race riots", but there are many reports of similarly frustrated white youths travelling in from other areas of Liverpool to fight alongside Toxteth residents against the police[citation needed]. Blaming "race problems" allowed many people - including then Merseyside Chief Constable Kenneth Oxford - to ignore the possibility of broader social origins for the violence.

The subsequent Scarman Report (although primarily directed at the Brixton Riot of 1981) recognised that the riots did represent the result of social problems such as poverty and deprivation.
 






SULLY COULDNT SHOOT

Loyal2Family+Albion!
Sep 28, 2004
11,348
Izmir, Southern Turkey
"I have no wish to be the victim of the Fraud of a black world.
My life should not be devoted to drawing up the balance sheet of Negro values.
There is no white world, there is no white ethic, any more than there is a white intelligence.
There are in every part of the world men who search.
I am not a prisoner of history. I should not seek there for the meaning of my destiny.
I should constantly remind myself that the real leap consists in introduction invention into existence.
In the world through which I travel, I am endlessly creating myself." ( Fritz Fanon in Black Skin, White Masks, 1952)
 








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