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Habitual User
Oct 18, 2006
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Worthing
Why the feck did Wilkins play Rents on the right and Cox on the left towards the end of that game. Surely once Jake had gone off it was obvious they should switch.

We needed quality crosses for Elder to attack not Cox floating ineffectual floaters because he had to come inside on his right all the time.

As for Jake... he bottled so many challenges again that Wilkins needs to tell him some home truths or else. When the balls in the air he makes out he`s staying on the ground because he wants to shield it when everyone can see he is scared of a clash.

Yesterday was a question of square pegs in round holes and dont dare tell me that we are limited with our squad because that was Mansfield we were playing for fucks sake.

As for Lynch............................... I haven`t got the sodding time to start there.
 




dougdeep

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May 9, 2004
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SUNNY SEAFORD
Jake picked up an injury quite early, I think he was stepped on. If he indeed has a broken foot, then I think he can be excused just a little.
 


Jim D

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Jul 23, 2003
5,275
Worthing
Someone said that Robinson has a broken bone in the foot. I really hope he did it in the game and didn't bring it in with him - hoping to get a couple of goals against a weak side.

As for Lynch, I'd say he was responsible for both their goals as he wasn't in position for their players.
 


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Habitual User
Oct 18, 2006
25,930
Worthing
Jake picked up an injury quite early, I think he was stepped on. If he indeed has a broken foot, then I think he can be excused just a little.

If he has a broken foot then he can be excused playing crap after THAT incident. If he carried on playing with the injury then you are highlighting Wilkins inadaquacies even more so.

Anyway Jake does not hit the line often enough to put crosses in Doug for a winger.
 


BensGrandad

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Jul 13, 2003
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Haywards Heath
Jake picked up an injury quite early, I think he was stepped on. If he indeed has a broken foot, then I think he can be excused just a little.

He can but the 3 clowns on the bench can't.

We had Martot and Rents sitting on the bench so either could have replaced JR with only a slight change of formation.


Why when we are losing in a Cup ties did they keep our only sub striker Elder until 10 mins from the end he should have been on with at least 30 mins to go. We went out 2- 1 had he come on and we conceeded anotheer it wouldnt have mattered . WE HAD TO SCORE A GOAL. to stay in the F.....g Cup.

As per phone in last night when 1,2,3, 4 or 5 of the targets have been brought in DK must do something about Dean Wilkins and or his staff as obviously they are not good enough either individually or collectively.
 




dougdeep

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May 9, 2004
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I heard some players were carrying bugs and injuries too.
 


dougdeep

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May 9, 2004
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If Wendy hasn't the players then I don't really see that it is his fault.
 






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Habitual User
Oct 18, 2006
25,930
Worthing
If Wendy hasn't the players then I don't really see that it is his fault.



Doug............ that arguement would stand up against the likes of Leeds, Forest or half of the div 1 teams but it was Mansfield for Christs sake.

and in that first 15 minutes we were complacent and thought we would just have to turn up.
 


Questions

Habitual User
Oct 18, 2006
25,930
Worthing
Someone said that Robinson has a broken bone in the foot. I really hope he did it in the game and didn't bring it in with him - hoping to get a couple of goals against a weak side.

As for Lynch, I'd say he was responsible for both their goals as he wasn't in position for their players.


Have you calmed down now Jim................ from the pub outburst. ?

I feel angry this morning about that debacle. Might be even angrier at 1.35 tomorrow.
 


Brighton Breezy

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Jul 5, 2003
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Sussex
Fraser and Lynch were ILL all week.

Robinson clearly got injured.

How is ANY of that Wilkins' fault?

Regarding Rents I guess he felt it was better not to disrupt too many players by changing lots round.
 




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Habitual User
Oct 18, 2006
25,930
Worthing
Fraser and Lynch were ILL all week.

Robinson clearly got injured.

How is ANY of that Wilkins' fault?

Regarding Rents I guess he felt it was better not to disrupt too many players by changing lots round.

But he often switches Cox and Robinson during games if 1 or 2 of them are being sussed. Why not play Cox and Rents on their natural sides.

If Lynch was suffering from the after effects of a virus why was he allowed to play for 90 mins. He was ok its just that he was played out of position and because of that he got caught out twice by their man on the right.
 


Brighton Breezy

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Jul 5, 2003
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Sussex
It wasn't JUST Lynch who was poor though was it?

Having watched the first goal again this morning you have to also question Cox for allowing the midfielder so much time to pick the pass, Butters for not covering his full back and Kuipers for not shortening the angle and staying on his line.

I personally would have taken Cox off and moved Rents on to the left.
 


Scotty Mac

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Jul 13, 2003
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lynch and fraser hadnt trained since bournemouth - starting them was a complete gamble that back fired massively
 




Jim D

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Jul 23, 2003
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Worthing
Have you calmed down now Jim................ from the pub outburst. ?

I feel angry this morning about that debacle. Might be even angrier at 1.35 tomorrow.

No I haven't. I'm still outraged about the attitude of those N Stand idiots. Hearing all that negative comment for most of the match was a lot worse than watching us lose - which I've done against much worse teams than Mansfield.

Those tossers even said that this was the worst performance they'd ever seen - until I reminded them of Stoke C.
 


Trigger

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Jul 4, 2003
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Brighton
What got me most was the fact we were 1-2 down against a team 35 odd places below us in the league structure and I don't think they've won away all season yet Wilkins waited until 10 minutes from end before throwing the extra striker (Elder) on and in my opinion he was MOM in those 10 minutes, just what could he have done if he was on the pitch earlier?... I just can't understand why Wilkins put a defender and a non league midfielder on before a striker, it seemed like he didn't want to win...
 


Jim D

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Jul 23, 2003
5,275
Worthing
Looking back at Wilkins’s substitutions over the season I get the impression that he’s a ‘by the book’ sort of manager. He’s done all of the coaching courses and (I believe) did very well in the final exams. He tries to keep a balance to the team by substituting like-for-like. That’s why, when Butters had to come off, he put Rents on and moved Lynch into Guy’s position. The chance he had with Fraser coming off (62 mins) was to gamble and put Elder on – but he chose the ‘by-the-book’ response and put Loft on. When his hand was forced by Robinson being unable to continue it was too late.

We all liked to laugh at other managers like Barry Fry making 3 subs at a time – and even Mourinho bringing on 2 strikers for a midfielder and a defender – but it often worked. Yesterday we needed to get something and we could have done with a gamble on Elder and even Martot.
 


Brighton Breezy

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Jul 5, 2003
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Sussex
I would have thrown on Elder earlier in the match but when you look at the lack of quality currently as Wilkins' disposal I think his hands are largely tied.
 




saltash seagull

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Mar 1, 2004
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cornwall
I would have thrown on Elder earlier in the match but when you look at the lack of quality currently as Wilkins' disposal I think his hands are largely tied.
is spot on

wilkins must be so pissed of at the moment with the players he has lost
 


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