England v Aussies

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MORTY

Well-known member
Jan 9, 2007
1,571
Basingstoke
If we lose today are we out? Saw somewhere it will come down to run rate but don't really understand this. Does it mean Aussies could win and still go home?

Help please!
 




pasty

A different kind of pasty
Jul 5, 2003
31,626
West, West, West Sussex
We can lose and stay in, unless the Aussies absolutely spank us I think. Not sure what would need to happen for the Aussies to win and still be out - I think we would have to absolutely spank them.
 




hans kraay fan club

The voice of reason.
Helpful Moderator
Mar 16, 2005
63,247
Chandlers Ford
In essence, the Aussies only just lost to Zim, so their relative R/Rs from that match are much the same. Zim conceded 190 to Eng and only scored 120 odd, which is pretty one-sided.

If the Auusies win today they will be through.
 






Papa Lazarou

Living in a De Zerbi wonderland
Jul 7, 2003
19,704
Worthing
Team news England have made one change from the side that beat Zimbabwe yesterday - James Kirtley comes in for James Anderson. "Anderson's last Twenty20 outing against Australia brought figures of 4-0-64-0 at Sydney," says Gnasher, "so it's probably not a bad move." Kirtley has a mean yorker for the death overs too.
 


REDLAND

Active member
Jul 7, 2003
9,443
At the foot of the downs
Team news England have made one change from the side that beat Zimbabwe yesterday - James Kirtley comes in for James Anderson. "Anderson's last Twenty20 outing against Australia brought figures of 4-0-64-0 at Sydney," says Gnasher, "so it's probably not a bad move." Kirtley has a mean yorker for the death overs too.

Are you sussex in disguise ?
 






we go thru regardless, unless Australia beat us by more than we beat Zimbadweeeeeee
 


REDLAND

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Jul 7, 2003
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At the foot of the downs








Grendel

New member
Jul 28, 2005
3,251
Seaford
If the Auusies win today they will be through.

In theory, they could win and go out. If Australia have a negative run rate from this match of 1.1 or more, they'll be out whether they win or lose.

For example, the Aussies bat first and score 200 off their 20 overs, England are all out for 170 but only bat for 15 overs. Australia would have a run rate of -1.33 from the match and be out of the competition.
 






Marc

New member
Jul 6, 2003
25,267
Come On Kirtles & Wright & Prior!
 




Grendel

New member
Jul 28, 2005
3,251
Seaford
It's a Super 8 so we'll carry the result through against the other team through i.e. the loss to the Aussies

Results aren't carried forward to the next stage. Despite being called the Super 8, it's actually two groups of four who then play each other once, with the top two in each group going through to the semi finals.

Hiney said:
Sorry to be ignorant, but how is NRR worked out

(Runs scored/Overs faced) - (Runs conceded/Overs bowled)
 


Hatterlovesbrighton

something clever
Jul 28, 2003
4,543
Not Luton! Thank God
In theory, they could win and go out. If Australia have a negative run rate from this match of 1.1 or more, they'll be out whether they win or lose.

For example, the Aussies bat first and score 200 off their 20 overs, England are all out for 170 but only bat for 15 overs. Australia would have a run rate of -1.33 from the match and be out of the competition.


I thought Run Rate was always worked out over the full innings period. Otherwise England could just go for 6's every ball with the knowledge that if they did get out they would still have a better run rate.
 








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