[Albion] Hurzeler is statistically our best Premier League manager

[The Optimist]

RDZ 22/23 record

Matches	W	D	L	Goals	Points	PPM
32	14	7	11	61:48	49	1.53

Hurzeler 24/25 record

Matches	W	D	L	Goals	Points	PPM
38	16	13	9	66:59	61	1.61

 

[Kalimantan Gull]

Oi that's my stat

 

[GoldstoneVintage]

True. RDZ picked up the reins after GP had already got us off to a flying start. FH has done it all himself this year. Impressive.

 

[BBassic]

I've been pretty vocal previously about my general ambivalence, and occasional fury, with regards to Fab.

But, as often turns out to be the case when it comes to football, I was wrong. He's done well, the odd nightmare aside.

 

[Zeberdi]

Posted my comments on the dedicated Fabian Hürzeler thread and hope others will too - he deserves that after all the negativity from fans this season - but yes, good first season and impressive stats for a first time PL manager.

 

[American Seagle]

RDZ 22/23 record

Matches	W	D	L	Goals	Points	PPM
32	14	7	11	61:48	49	1.53

Hurzeler 24/25 record

Matches	W	D	L	Goals	Points	PPM
38	16	13	9	66:59	61	1.61

So in RDZ's best season he would have had us on 58pts and not qualified for anything in Europe if in charge for the full season.
But he had a fiery personality so people think he is better.

 

[The Optimist]

So in RDZ's best season he would have had us on 58pts and not qualified for anything in Europe if in charge for the full season.
But he had a fiery personality so people think he is better.

RDZ got 2 points from his first 5 games. If he’d had pre-season he’d probably have had a much better start.

 

[American Seagle]

RDZ got 2 points from his first 5 games. If he’d had pre-season he’d probably have had a much better start.

Is that true? He had a full pre-season the next year and did worse. The evidence doesn't back that up.

 

[Triggaaar]

Is that true? He had a full pre-season the next year and did worse. The evidence doesn't back that up.

RDZ took several games to get his first victory.

I think the start to his second season was decent?

 

[American Seagle]

RDZ took several games to get his first victory.

I think the start to his second season was decent?

But the rest wasn't.
hurzeler has proven to be better over a full season.

 

[Kalimantan Gull]

So in RDZ's best season he would have had us on 58pts and not qualified for anything in Europe if in charge for the full season.
But he had a fiery personality so people think he is better.

I don't think the point of this is to denigrate RDZ or claim Fab is better (yet), or any such micro analysis when there are many other factors under the hood.

No, the point of this is simply to call out all the people who wanted Fab sacked at some point this season as the silly know-nothings they are

 

[Eeyore]

True. RDZ picked up the reins after GP had already got us off to a flying start. FH has done it all himself this year. Impressive.

This is correct. If RDZ's points per game ratio had been reflected across the season we reached Europe we would have ended in 9th.

 

[Eeyore]

But the rest wasn't.
hurzeler has proven to be better over a full season.

What was interesting about the second half of that season was Albion only having two European matches. Only the bottom three were worse.

 

[Mustafa II]

I still can't believe RDZ is so highly rated amongst our fans, when it's quite clear the stroppy Italian just rode the wave of the fantastic squad that Potter built.

 

[American Seagle]

I still can't believe RDZ is so highly rated amongst our fans, when it's quite clear the stroppy Italian just rode the wave of the fantastic squad that Potter built.

His record in that one good season was in par with Hurzeler. The difference is he said crazy things and jumped about. People get blinded by that a bit too much.

They are both extremely good managers, as was Potter.

 

[Bodian]

And even more statistically so if we looked at RDZ's complete PL stats I guess?

P70 W26 D19 L25 Pts 97 PPG 1.385

 

[One Teddy Maybank]

But the rest wasn't.
hurzeler has proven to be better over a full season.

Not in terms of league position.

Not knocking Fab though subs today spot on, clearly learning.

It’s silly to get into another manager debate.

 

[kevo]

RDZ 22/23 record

Matches	W	D	L	Goals	Points	PPM
32	14	7	11	61:48	49	1.53

Hurzeler 24/25 record

Matches	W	D	L	Goals	Points	PPM
38	16	13	9	66:59	61	1.61

Although you're forgetting we were denied a potential 13 points that season under RDZ due to blatantly incorrect ref/VAR decisions, including the Spurs debacle among others. We should by rights have finished at least 5th, probably 4th (yes, I'm still bitter).

That hasn't happened this season.

 

[American Seagle]

Not in terms of league position.

Not knocking Fab though subs today spot on, clearly learning.

It’s silly to get into another manager debate.

I just don't get why RDZ is mentioned in such high esteem compared with potter and Hurzeler when they are all pretty similar.

 

[One Teddy Maybank]

I just don't get why RDZ is mentioned in such high esteem compared with potter and Hurzeler when they are all pretty similar.

6th place probably, and improving the playing style mid-season, far harder than starting during preseason.

But, you are right, they are all good managers in their own right.