[Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)

[Eric the meek]

Very good, detailed article .
I noticed in particular this bit:
"Merz, the first chancellor to have served in the Bundeswehr, said: “We stand firmly by Ukraine but we also stand together as Europeans as a whole and we play, whenever possible, as a team with the US.”

'whenever possible ', a commitment, hopefully, that Europe will 100,% stand together even if the US is not there.

Perhaps Merz is leaving the door open for Trump in the future 'whenever possible', but giving a nod to Putin, the fact that Trump won't be there forever.

 

[Eric the meek]

Well....it sounds good, but I'll believe it when I see it.

Not being anything approaching an expert in US politics, I have no idea whether this is a done deal, or if Trump could veto it.

 

[Eric the meek]

Here's one for connoisseurs of the impending collapse (no timeline) of Russia:

 

[peterward]

Here's the latest one. After Nazis, protection of Russian speakers, biolabs, NATO moving East etc.

Now, the USSR never legally dissolved and therefore the Ukraine situation is an internal matter.

 

[raymondo]

Well....it sounds good, but I'll believe it when I see it.

Not being anything approaching an expert in US politics, I have no idea whether this is a done deal, or if Trump could veto it.

I read (?) somewhere that Trump 'has' to support it or it won't get put before the House. May not be true, but seeing as they're all scared of him.
I also read that he MAY have asked Graham to prep it, then, if it goes through, he can say to Vlad it was nothing to do with him....

 

[raymondo]

Here's the latest one. After Nazis, protection of Russian speakers, biolabs, NATO moving East etc.

Now, the USSR never legally dissolved and therefore the Ukraine situation is an internal matter.

All former Soviet states need to agree to attack Russia at the same time.

 

[fly high]

All former Soviet states need to agree to attack Russia at the same time.

Yes, something I have been thinking as it obviously means Putin is maybe invading them. There are 14 of them, including Ukraine, although some have governments under Russian control.

 

[raymondo]

First three minutes summary of Ukraine's drone attacks on Russian electronics facilities and also basically closing a number of airports causing travel chaos.
ALSO first recorded downing of a shahed drone by an FPV drone,which is impressive because of the speed at which this must have been done

 

[peterward]

 

[fly high]

Except the majority in Ukraine and probably Belarus don't think of themselves as Russian and don't want to be ruled by the Kremlin.

 

[Deportivo Seagull]

Delusional. They really are on their was aren’t they.

 

[raymondo]

And Trump wants mutually beneficial trade deals with these guys - go and live there, Trump, Vance, Musk...enjoy

 

[fly high]

And Trump wants mutually beneficial trade deals with these guys - go and live there, Trump, Vance, Musk...enjoy

Except they will be rich & feeding Putin more wealth so not a problem for them, it's normal people like me & thee who suffer such as your wife's family. If the three you mention had even an ounce of humanity they would be doing everything in their power to stop Putin instead of licking his arse.

 

[Eric the meek]

Delusional. They really are on their was aren’t they.

Delusional, brutal, arrogant and entitled. Either they don't care or don't understand the damage they are doing to Russia, not to mention their neighbours.

 

[GT49er]

Delusional. They really are on their was aren’t they.

What is 'their was' that they are on?

 

[raymondo]

What is 'their was' that they are on?

Predictive text malfunction of 'arse' I'd imagine

 

[raymondo]

Except they will be rich & feeding Putin more wealth so not a problem for them, it's normal people like me & thee who suffer such as your wife's family. If the three you mention had even an ounce of humanity they would be doing everything in their power to stop Putin instead of licking his arse.

Very true, they have little or zero visible humanity.

 

[raymondo]

I imagine the Ukrainian POWs are very happy, but the Russians less so.
The Russian returning POWs are likely to be put straight back on the front line, with crap food rations (but probably decent drug supplies).

BREAKING: Ukraine, Russia hold largest prisoner swap since start of Russia's war

President Volodymyr Zelensky said on Telegram that 390 Ukrainian prisoners had been exchanged as part of the first stage of the swap.

kyivindependent.com

 

[essbee1]

The difference between civilised armies and uncivilised armies run by ***** is that the Russian POWs will be seen as
"losers" and sent back to the line with the worst positions - the Ukranian POWs, on the other hand, will be seen as heroes
- and rightly so.

The Russian army high command are cowardly scum, plain and simple.

 

[Eric the meek]

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