[News] Nigel Farage and Reform

[Hugo Rune]

A 31% vote share on a turnout of approx 35% (which equates to approx 11% of the total electorate). I doubt that Reform would get 31% on a turnout of over 60%.

Exactly.

Also, there are certain types of people who like a 'protest vote' during local elections. People who want to send a message to the Government or Tory party and don't mind some of their councillors getting binned off. When it comes to the serious business of a general election in 4 years time, I'd suggest those that lent their votes to Reform will be back with the Tories.

 

[Guinness Boy]

Because, I thought the Telegraph was a reliable source of information, not one for spreading false facts/information

Of course you did.

 

[Machiavelli]

Because, I thought the Telegraph was a reliable source of information, not one for spreading false facts/information

Well, a different view is that there's an entire ecosystem funded by the rich encouraging voters to back the Tories and, more recently, Reform. This comprises numerous thinktanks punting out 'reliable information' and facts -- a question: are 'false facts' the same as 'alternative facts'? -- most newspapers, TV channels, and so on.
And they'll tell you that I'm pedalling woke communism.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Because, I thought the Telegraph was a reliable source of information, not one for spreading false facts/information

It is owned by a consortium from Abu Dhabi.
It was previously owned by the Barclay brothers.

 

[TomandJerry]

Of course you did.

Absolutely. Am I wrong to think an established newspaper tells misinformation and false truths?

 

[TomandJerry]

Well, a different view is that there's an entire ecosystem funded by the rich encouraging voters to back the Tories and, more recently, Reform. This comprises numerous thinktanks punting out 'reliable information' and facts -- a question: are 'false facts' the same as 'alternative facts'? -- most newspapers, TV channels, and so on.
And they'll tell you that I'm pedalling woke communism.

The Telegraph isn't the only newspaper I read - I like to get a broad spectrum

 

[Weststander]

Absolutely. Am I wrong to think an established newspaper tells misinformation and false truths?

 

[darkwolf666]

I mean, I'd like to think that whoever funded it, the article is accurate in what they are saying.

Because, I thought the Telegraph was a reliable source of information, not one for spreading false facts/information

Really?

I‘m still waiting for the detail from the article as to where The Telegraph get their figures from, as clearly they will have provided this level of information to back up their story… won’t they?

 

[BadFish]

Why is it that folks that are very left wing & think the Guardian is a credible news source suddenly turn quite nasty when challenged on their views. Yet people that are more centre or right wing ( not extreme right) don’t !

Because its easy to attribute made up scenarios to made up people?

 

[TomandJerry]

Really?

I‘m still waiting for the detail from the article as to where The Telegraph get their figures from, as clearly they will have provided this level of information to back up their story… won’t they?

I've re-read and all I can find is that top level sickness benefits are £23,900. As found by the CSJ.

 

[TomandJerry]

Of course you did.

Why would I not?

 

[TomandJerry]

Trying to have a decent debate here, I'm not exactly quoting from The Sun

 

[Guinness Boy]

Absolutely. Am I wrong to think an established newspaper tells misinformation and false truths?

Yes, yes you are. And you know why. And you’ll post that you don’t.

 

[Machiavelli]

The Telegraph isn't the only newspaper I read - I like to get a broad spectrum

You'll be ever so pleased that you can pick up the same non-dom-directed drivel from this broad spectrum.

 

[BadFish]

Money talks.

so does amplifying the political voices of the owners of the media and representing them in parliament.

They back the party of most benefit to them.

 

[TomandJerry]

Yes, yes you are. And you know why. And you’ll post that you don’t.

You'll have to explain to me why the Telegraph isn't to be a trusted news source?

For clarification it's not the only place I read the news

 

[Guinness Boy]

Because its easy to attribute made up scenarios to made up people?

Talking of made up people does anyone want to guess the full, correct name of Duran Duran’s bassist?

 

[Deportivo Seagull]

Absolutely. Am I wrong to think an established newspaper tells misinformation and false truths?

If you had a modicum of common sense you would have realised that the telegraph is a cheap rag masquerading as broad sheet.

 

[Deportivo Seagull]

You'll have to explain to me why the Telegraph isn't to be a trusted news source?

For clarification it's not the only place I read the news

But it does give an indication of what else you might read ….

 

[TomandJerry]

But it does give an indication of what else you might read ….

I read The Guardian, BBC, Telegraph and I'm thinking about the Financial Times.