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[Albion] If we let a 300+ games player leave on a free to Real Madrid...



Robdinho

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It’s not that he’s leaving. It’s that he repaid years of support and encouragement by running down his contract.
Some might say he'd repaid years of support and encouragement by playing a major part in winning the Premier League twice (including their first one in 30 years) and the Champions League.

At most clubs he'd be walking on water, but the Liverpool fans seem to be taking their recent success for granted rather quickly.
 




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If a player has a contract, and they see that out, I don't really see why anybody should have a problem with it. They've literally held up their end of the bargain.

I'm guessing (without making any effort to check) that MacAllister and his agent were paid more for the short extension they signed with us? He handled it as well as he could have done and far better than most of these go, but I wouldn't expect any player to agree an extension like that without getting something in return. They could easily get hacked down the next game and the transfer dissappears out the window.

Also, his contract runs out in the summer (presumably, again I'm not interested in the minutae enough to check), when's he meant to extend to?
Extend by a year. There’s a huge difference between a transfer fee with 6 months left as opposed to 18 months.
 


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Extend by a year. There’s a huge difference between a transfer fee with 6 months left as opposed to 18 months.
Yeah, but why? He'd just be screwing his soon to be employers (and himself) to benefit the Liverpool owners. I can get the annoyance if he'd signed an extension with the higher wage and then tried to get out of it, but what's the problem with signing up for X years and seeing out the X years?
 


Hotchilidog

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Some might say he'd repaid years of support and encouragement by playing a major part in winning the Premier League twice (including their first one in 30 years) and the Champions League.

At most clubs he'd be walking on water, but the Liverpool fans seem to be taking their recent success for granted rather quickly.
This. TAA has played a major part in Liverpool‘s success, he has done his job there and then some. Liverpool fans should be celebrating their title win not indulging in petty spats with a great club servant. Really classless.
 


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Yeah, but why? He'd just be screwing his soon to be employers (and himself) to benefit the Liverpool owners. I can get the annoyance if he'd signed an extension with the higher wage and then tried to get out of it, but what's the problem with signing up for X years and seeing out the X years?
This. TAA has played a major part in Liverpool‘s success, he has done his job there and then some. Liverpool fans should be celebrating their title win not indulging in petty spats with a great club servant. Really classless.
I’d refer both these points back to the answer I gave HWT. If I was a dyed in the wool Scouse Liverpool fan from one of the areas near the ground I’d see TAA as not repaying loyalty shown him by the club and getting above himself. It’s about community and giving something back to the football club that took you out of poverty. A fee, these days, helps their PSR position. He’s punished the club that made him.

I don’t have any time for their southern / TV fans getting upset though.
 




Southern Scouse

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To boo or not to boo, up to the individual. He shouldn’t have played, he has said he wants to leave so hopefully it’s his last game.
I really appreciate what he has done for the club but he’s now an ex-LFC player so am indifferent towards him. It’s not him going, it’s the way he’s gone. He has been running down his contract for the last two years. Main issue is his brother, I’m indifferent to him but know loads of really decent Reds who find his actions unforgivable.
When he retires he may regret his choices, he could have been a Gerrard but will end up an Owen.
 


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If Real Madrid were the only club he’d leave for it seems pointless extending his contract as they would just wait for it to run out again. Also there’s the chance he gets injured in that year and misses out on his dream move.

Fact is nobody knows the situation and booing him is classless bullshit. Hardly his fault he’s paid so well either by the way.
 


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I’d refer both these points back to the answer I gave HWT. If I was a dyed in the wool Scouse Liverpool fan from one of the areas near the ground I’d see TAA as not repaying loyalty shown him by the club and getting above himself. It’s about community and giving something back to the football club that took you out of poverty. A fee, these days, helps their PSR position. He’s punished the club that made him.

I don’t have any time for their southern / TV fans getting upset though.
Punished them? Oh poooor Liverpool winners of the league and throwing 350k a week at Salah. Bloody hell.
 




Hotchilidog

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I’d refer both these points back to the answer I gave HWT. If I was a dyed in the wool Scouse Liverpool fan from one of the areas near the ground I’d see TAA as not repaying loyalty shown him by the club and getting above himself. It’s about community and giving something back to the football club that took you out of poverty. A fee, these days, helps their PSR position. He’s punished the club that made him.

I don’t have any time for their southern / TV fans getting upset though.
Two titles and a champions league I think he has given the club and the fans plenty. The booing today detracts from the team‘s achievement. The season isn’t over yet and their fans are grizzling when they should be living it up, each to their own and all that but just seems weird to me.
 


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Punished them? Oh poooor Liverpool winners of the league and throwing 350k a week at Salah. Bloody hell.
But that’s an isolationist position. Their competitors are all paying the max they can under PSR, which is more than us, because we’re not really competing with them.

You don’t really expect them to disadvantage themselves compared to City, Arsenal, Real, Barca, Bayern Munich do you?

And do you expect someone who grew up in Liverpool and can’t earn that in a lifetime to support a greedy player?
 


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I’d refer both these points back to the answer I gave HWT.
OK, I'll reply to that.
Players have far too much power and earn too much money. I can understand why working class blokes from Anfield booed him to be fair.
I can't imagine many of those working class blokes from Anfield would have much problem with being paid millions of pounds to do their job, see out the contract they signed up to, and then moving to Madrid for significantly more money.
Less sympathy with any booing Estate Agents from Kingston.
These people, clearly, are berks.
But player demands is why my son’s mates can’t all afford to watch us at the moment while us well off old codgers can.
While I generally agree and take your point, there's definitely enough money in football to keep ticket prices lower. Particularly for a club like Liverpool, the ticket cost isn't really relevant.
 






Motogull

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Why didn't Liverpool press him to sign a year ago?
They bagged Salah and Virtual (OK, recently).
Maybe they figured he isn't worth what he wants.
A mutual decision, then.
No need for (some) supporters to get titsy.
I think the supporters are especially titsy about him going to RM. Apparently, they have form for flirting with a player and avoiding transfer fees by persuading them not to extend contracts.
Could they? What were other clubs offering?
Matters not if he was not going sign for anyone else.
 


Stato

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Fair or unfair I've no sympathy for a player who has already won everything and wants for nothing, but who has chosen to leave his home City, that won't buy the Sun, to join the team of the regime. I've no love for any of our 'big six', but Real Madrid are the absolute worst.
 




Sid and the Sharknados

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Fair or unfair I've no sympathy for a player who has already won everything and wants for nothing, but who has chosen to leave his home City, that won't buy the Sun, to join the team of the regime. I've no love for any of our 'big six', but Real Madrid are the absolute worst.
I'm not sure that the reasons for not buying the Sun are in any way related to the reasons why any right minded person doesn't like Real Madrid.

And to be clear, I don't like Real Madrid. But I can understand why professional football players aspire to play for them (even notwithstanding the enormous amount of money they pay).
 




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I think the supporters are especially titsy about him going to RM. Apparently, they have form for flirting with a player and avoiding transfer fees by persuading them not to extend contracts.

Matters not if he was not going sign for anyone else.
Fair points.

And fair dues, only a third of the reaction noise was booing.

It is hard for me to really understand the Liverpool thinking on this.
What with us being a somewhat smaller club. Apparently.
As I note, my pal Bob was ambivalent.
Seemed a bit sad to me (seemed a bit Everton)..... but in the end...whatever.
I was surprised but I shall move on....
(as an aside I see the usual prejudices have appeared on this thread. Fancy that! :lolol: :thumbsup: )
 


Scappa

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This is exactly it.

It’s not that he’s leaving. It’s that he repaid years of support and encouragement by running down his contract.
Except he has been subject of dogs abuse when struggling for form and fitness over the last couple of years

"You'll never walk alone"*, "This Means More". F*** off.

*Terms and conditions apply, void where prohibited - see Loris Karius, Dejan Lovren
 




Beanstalk

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If we had a player run down his contract so we didn't get a fee for him and left him for a bigger club, I guarantee he would get booed.
But is this the case? I thought it had been reported that the contract offers had been late in the day and pretty paltry compared to what was available elsewhere.

Spurs went through something similar with Kane and ended up

He’s got the most assists for a defender in Premier League history and he’s 26.
 


Flounce

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Yeah, but why? He'd just be screwing his soon to be employers (and himself) to benefit the Liverpool owners. I can get the annoyance if he'd signed an extension with the higher wage and then tried to get out of it, but what's the problem with signing up for X years and seeing out the X years?
Quite he signed a contract, gave his all and did well for them, didn’t want to sign on for longer for whatever reason, I don’t see the problem unless you are the fan of a club who thinks they have some divine right to keep you until your sell by date. They’d bin him soon enough if they thought he was past it. He has done absolutely nothing to deserve being booed imo
 


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