[Football] Wenger proposes changes to the offside rule due to VAR

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Perkino

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I'm another vote for onfield decision to stand unless a quick 30s review shows a clear and obvious error.

I'd also like to see offside rule altered to only penalise attackers if they are in an offside position both when the ball is passed and when they receive the ball. I don't understand how a striker who is beyond the last defender but heading back towards his own goal has any advantage when receiving the ball and now has a whole defence to now navigate his way past
 




Triggaaar

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I've been saying a long time that one of the worst things about VAR is that it has effectively removed the post Italia '90 ruling that being level was ONSIDE.

Now Arsene Wenger is looking to tweak the law so that the attacker once again gets the advantage.

Can't come soon enough in my opinion.


'Wenger proposes'? Pretty sure millions of us have been saying similar for years
 






















Barham's tash

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I like the idea of clear daylight and semi automated together as this feels like it would leave much less to human interpretation and 'good processes'.
 




mejonaNO12 aka riskit

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This will create SO many more goals. It's not as simple as "all the goals that have been ruled out in the past would now stand" , it would also fundamentally change the mentality of the attacker. You can gamble on making an attacking run far more as you know you can have 90% of your body past the defender and still be onside. From the moment you are taught attacking moves you are taught to bend the run, this means leaning forward. The current VAR punishes that with people "leaning" into an offside position .

This new version will free up players to again gamble on those runs and know there is a good chance their trailing leg etc will keep them onside.

It's actually a huge change in terms of margin of error given to an attacker.
 


Sid and the Sharknados

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This will create SO many more goals. It's not as simple as "all the goals that have been ruled out in the past would now stand" , it would also fundamentally change the mentality of the attacker. You can gamble on making an attacking run far more as you know you can have 90% of your body past the defender and still be onside. From the moment you are taught attacking moves you are taught to bend the run, this means leaning forward. The current VAR punishes that with people "leaning" into an offside position .

This new version will free up players to again gamble on those runs and know there is a good chance their trailing leg etc will keep them onside.

It's actually a huge change in terms of margin of error given to an attacker.
I'd expect teams to sit deeper in response to it, so it might all just balance out overall.

If they do react that way it also opens up more space in midfield... Which is roughly where my ability to talk intelligently about football runs out. Pressing becomes less effective because the playing area's bigger. Or something. :lolol:
 


Zeberdi

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I'd expect teams to sit deeper in response to it, so it might all just balance out overall.

If they do react that way it also opens up more space in midfield... Which is roughly where my ability to talk intelligently about football runs out. Pressing becomes less effective because the playing area's bigger. Or something. :lolol:
Or play a high defence line maximising the offside trap as we have done with moderate success?

We would just need to get better at it!

The main change/benefit I can see would be is when the 18 yard box is so crowded that the offside rule currently becomes nonsensical.
 




Johnny RoastBeef

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Or play a high defence line maximising the offside trap as we have done with moderate success?

We would just need to get better at it!

The main change/benefit I can see would be is when the 18 yard box is so crowded that the offside rule currently becomes nonsensical.

I can see defences pushing right up into the opposition half, and slow defenders at this level becoming a thing of the past. The advantage given to attackers will be massive, so much so that it will probably lead to new and original formations.
 


Zeberdi

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I can see defences pushing right up into the opposition half, and slow defenders at this level becoming a thing of the past. The advantage given to attackers will be massive, so much so that it will probably lead to new and original formations.
Yep - exactly.

Perhaps more exiting box to box football, faster counter-attacks and more hoofing it by GKs over the top of the MFs from the back? But maybe football is heading that way anyway?
 


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