[Technology] Driverless autonomous semi-trucks (lorry) take to road in Texas

[el punal]

Wait for the first serious accident. Who will take the blame?

Biden

 

[Greg Bobkin]

Why are younger drivers so dead set against using indicators (turn signals)? ? ? ?

Not just younger drivers...

Assisted brake whilst on cruise control i switch off. That dangerous

Regen? Why is it dangerous?

 

[Mellotron]

Yours, I would've thought, because you're in control of the vehicle.

But this is the point. Even for short moments, Lane Assist takes control of the vehicle away from you.

 

[Greg Bobkin]

But this is the point. Even for short moments, Lane Assist takes control of the vehicle away from you.

Oh, I get that. But, technically, you are still behind the wheel, so the buck stops with you (I think). Also, I've never experienced a lane assist that can't be overcome with sufficient force to stop it going where it wants to go. A bit like cruise control, it can be overridden, no? The only instances I can see where there could be a claim is if the ADAS malfunctions.

I'm not saying it's right, by the way – and many ADAS technologies irritate the hell out of me. Especially when I'm jumping from car to car and I can't figure out the reason for the car bonging or flashing something. If it makes you feel better, most of the manufacturers hate it too, but know they need to include it to comply with regulations and Euro NCAP ratings...

 

[jessiejames]

Not just younger drivers...

Regen? Why is it dangerous?

I admit my experience is in my lorry, to sensitive harsh brake if something flies in front of the truck. Slamming on brakes as your following the road because it picks up the chevron sign

 

[Mellotron]

Oh, I get that. But, technically, you are still behind the wheel, so the buck stops with you (I think). Also, I've never experienced a lane assist that can't be overcome with sufficient force to stop it going where it wants to go. A bit like cruise control, it can be overridden, no? The only instances I can see where there could be a claim is if the ADAS malfunctions.

I'm not saying it's right, by the way – and many ADAS technologies irritate the hell out of me. Especially when I'm jumping from car to car and I can't figure out the reason for the car bonging or flashing something. If it makes you feel better, most of the manufacturers hate it too, but know they need to include it to comply with regulations and Euro NCAP ratings...

I get what you're saying.
The point I'm making is that it isn't perfect, and therefore there are times when it actively could make driving needlessly difficult/more dangerous.

Say it "lane assists" to swerve you towards parked traffic - this has happened - and in that split second where you jerk back the other way, you slightly oversteer and scrape someone on the other side - just doesn't sit right with me that ALL the blame should be on the driver there - they've been forced into a needless and potentially tricky maneuvre by an ERROR from the car.

In a split second moment, you shouldn't be fighting against the car itself AS WELL as trying to steer safely through a tricky situation...

 

[Badger]

On a similar subject, I'm curious about the following;

My car has Lane Assist. I have to turn it off (it always start as ON default, which is annoying), as it can be genuinely dangerous at times.

Example;

Driving on a fairly narrow country road (trees either side of 50mph road), and you get stuck behind a cyclist. You wait until a safe point to overtake them. Lane Assist notices you are moving over the middle line and pulls you back onto your side. A couple of times this has almost resulted in a collision (with cyclist, or another time with parked cars). It affects your driving and can genuinely make situations a bit more dangerous.

If Lane Assist pulls me back in lane and due to that I then scrape a car, whose fault is that? What's the insurance situation?

VW Forum - Lane Assist is downright dangerous

I rented a couple of cars when I was in the UK recently and both of them had this feature. I figured out how to turn it off after it did exactly what you said on country roads, trying to pull me towards oncoming traffic. In fact, the second car was a giant MG SUV (not my choice) and its lane assist feature was utterly useless and often tried to pull me across when I was comfortably in the lane on a motorway. It's dangerous and completely unnecessary to be on by default.

And don't got me started on the audible alerts if you go 1mph over the speed limit. Half the time it doesn't even read the right speed limit sign.