[Albion] Bart Verbruggen SINGS a 5-year deal

[Don Tmatter]

West Ham in for Kelleher at £20m. Wish we moved for him.

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We lost out to Villa for Martinez and Wet Sham for Soucek & Kudus

 

[Don Tmatter]

That does not look for our GK coaching team.

I’d like a GK coach that has played at a decent level (Championship and above) in this country as BV isn’t improving to my eye

 

[Hiheidi]

There will almost certainly be a bidding war

Yup, Bournemouth presumably need a new keeper this Summer (alongside West Ham) as they have one of Chelsea's many keepers on loan.

 

[Forster's Armband]

We should go and get Ramsdale if BV goes.

 

[London Irish]

I think this is an oft overlooked point. The chances we give up appear harder to save on account of them seeming being fast break one on ones after a cheap turnover by our defence/midfield.

It was the same for Steele last season. It feels like our keepers are always left high and dry, but maybe that's just a result of the type of football we want to play as a club. It is higher risk, so as a result we give up more high xG chances?

Bart is a good young, developing keeper but his talents were hyped to a ridiculous extent by all the snobs who hated Steele (they couldn't handle a long-term No2 who came from Championship level clubs making a breakthrough).

All that's happened now is Bart's abilities are being accurately appraised at last - currently in EPL terms he's in the middle of the pack, not the worst but not the best we see at the Amex either when we look at visiting keepers

 

[Weststander]

We lost out to Villa for Martinez and Wet Sham for Soucek & Kudus

Wages?

 

[GT49er]

No. Improvement on Verbruggen, let's take Bayern's €60m .

Kelleher, Rushworth, Beadle's About, etc giving us options.

Absolutely. Except don't bother buying Kelleher (or Ramsdale for that matter). If BV goes, we've got Rushworth, with Steele and McGill as back up, Beadle to come in in two or three years, hen Rushworth moves on. We have far higher priorities than buying a GK we don't need (RB, CB for starters - plus replacements for whoever goes - Mitoma? Baleba? Van Hecke?).

 

[Weststander]

Absolutely. Except don't bother buying Kelleher (or Ramsdale for that matter). If BV goes, we've got Rushworth, with Steele and McGill as back up, Beadle to come in in two or three years, hen Rushworth moves on. We have far higher priorities than buying a GK we don't need (RB, CB for starters - plus replacements for whoever goes - Mitoma? Baleba? Van Hecke?).

Good points.

Although a few people on nsc have told us for years that Steele is an awful keeper .

 

[Withdean South Stand]

Good points.

Although a few people on nsc have told us for years that Steele is an awful keeper .

He is.

And so is Ramsdale.

 

[drew]

Bart is a good young, developing keeper but his talents were hyped to a ridiculous extent by all the snobs who hated Steele (they couldn't handle a long-term No2 who came from Championship level clubs making a breakthrough).

All that's happened now is Bart's abilities are being accurately appraised at last - currently in EPL terms he's in the middle of the pack, not the worst but not the best we see at the Amex either when we look at visiting keepers

Give it a rest, he isn't Dutch No.1 because they listened to the hype. I'd put Steele behind BV but not too far behind.

 

[Weststander]

He is.

Steele was key to our best ever season.

 

[Withdean South Stand]

Steele was key to our best ever season.

No, he wasn't key. He was involved, but he wasn't key. Caicedo and Mac Allister were key. Steele also ran. We aren't going to agree on this, but Sanchez was just as important to that team as Steele was but neither were difference makers in a positive or negative way.

 

[hampshirebrightonboy]

Bart is a good young, developing keeper but his talents were hyped to a ridiculous extent by all the snobs who hated Steele (they couldn't handle a long-term No2 who came from Championship level clubs making a breakthrough).

All that's happened now is Bart's abilities are being accurately appraised at last - currently in EPL terms he's in the middle of the pack, not the worst but not the best we see at the Amex either when we look at visiting keepers

Middle of the pack in the Premier league is very good though - especially when you consider his age

 

[Weststander]

No, he wasn't key. He was involved, but he wasn't key. Caicedo and Mac Allister were key. Steele also ran. We aren't going to agree on this, but Sanchez was just as important to that team as Steele was but neither were difference makers in a positive or negative way.

Using your absolute emphasis, yes he was key. His exemplary distribution enabled fast paced attacks, which unsettled defensive systems. His game was perfect for the RDZ football that us our greatest ever season.

 

[Flounce]

Steele is back I think? Shoot me but I’d prefer him in goal over the Bart I’ve been watching recently. At least he doesn’t make many errors with the ball at his feet and pretty well all shots on our goal end up in the back of the net anyway. I think the defence have more faith in Steele too, but that is just a gut feeling, I don’t actually have any evidence for that.

 

[lost in london]

Man U supposedly have him on their list to replace Onana according to inews.

 

[GT49er]

Steele was key to our best ever season.

In which Sanchez played more than half the games.

 

[Weststander]

In which Sanchez played more than half the games.

True. Very similar keeping stats:
Sanchez played 23, 1.26 goals conceded per game, 6 clean-sheets.
Steele 15 - conceded 1.33 goals conceded per game, 6 clean-sheets.

Whilst Steele’s passing game was the best I’ve seen from an Albion keeper. At any distance and under pressure, imho similar to Alisson and Ederson.

 

[GT49er]

True. Very similar keeping stats:
Sanchez played 23, 1.26 goals conceded per game, 6 clean-sheets.
Steele 15 - conceded 1.33 goals conceded per game, 6 clean-sheets.

Whilst Steele’s passing game was the best I’ve seen from an Albion keeper. At any distance and under pressure, imho similar to Alisson and Ederson.

Yep. I'd still rather have a GK that made match-saving/winning saves though, no matter what de Zerbi thought. As far as de Zerbi and GKs go, he got away with it for 40% of one season. and cost us a place or two the next, when he had to alternate between one GK who wasn't quite good enough and one who wasn't quire ready.

Still, de Zerbi made his mark with that decision, didn't he. Managers often like to make a big one, when they come in to a new job.

 

[Weststander]

Yep. I'd still rather have a GK that made match-saving/winning saves though, no matter what de Zerbi thought. As far as de Zerbi and GKs go, he got away with it for 40% of one season. and cost us a place or two the next, when he had to alternate between one GK who wasn't quite good enough and one who wasn't quire ready.

Still, de Zerbi made his mark with that decision, didn't he. Managers often like to make a big one, when they come in to a new job.

Playing behind the same defence, Steele’s goalkeeping stats were very close to Sanchez’s.

The calls to make Verbruggen an ever present last season, because he’s apparently the real deal haven’t been borne out this season. He’s a young work in progress with frequent lapses in key costly moments and can’t save a penalty for toffee.

Aside from the goalkeeping defensive aspects, Steele was brilliant for our creative/offensive game.

This Monday on Talksport Chavs STH Andy Jacobs was scathing of Sanchez’s distribution. Once they went long (due to crowd pressure according to Maresca), their game fell apart because “Sanchez is unable to find a player at any distance”.