[Politics] Donald Trump, US President

[Weststander]

And he said something like " I'm sure the stock market will rise further...this country is stronger than it's ever been..." , yes, on the back of global trade,!!!
He's just an idiot actor.

Brazen, with his alt right cabal, in talking up the stock markets. Cringey, cosmetic, a smokescreen, cheapskate, unstatesmanlike. Could you imagine a PM say buy on the LSE or a German Chancellor encourage buying stocks today on the Börse Frankfurt?

The f@cker caused the crash.

 

[beorhthelm]

I wonder if he might be investigated when everything settles down. It could be argued that he has manipulated the markets.
Ive no doubt that there will be some that have made some serious money in the last few weeks due to this fiasco

people will go with that, though looks a lot like he was forced to act not on the stock market fall, rather on bond yields going up 15%, the wrong direction with their debt.

fact is none of this is to plan, it's chaotic policy on the hoof.

 

[SouthSaxon]

I wonder if he might be investigated when everything settles down. It could be argued that he has manipulated the markets.
Ive no doubt that there will be some that have made some serious money in the last few weeks due to this fiasco

I don’t think it’ll make any difference. If they’d done a better job of investigating him before, he’d already be behind bars.

 

[DavidinSouthampton]

I don’t think it’ll make any difference. If they’d done a better job of investigating him before, he’d already be behind bars.

Apparently he’s quite well off and spends a lot of money on lawyers…..

 

[Weststander]

BBC2 Newsnight just now … really good. Allianz chief economic advisor knows his onions, play it from the start.

Trump bottled it today due to the bond markets. But far more needs to happen to prevent a recession.

 

[BN41Albion]

Apparently he’s quite well off and spends a lot of money on lawyers…..

It's a really f***ing shitty world we live in, isn't it

 

[Super Sub]

people will go with that, though looks a lot like he was forced to act not on the stock market fall, rather on bond yields going up 15%, the wrong direction with their debt.

fact is none of this is to plan, it's chaotic policy on the hoof.

You’re probably right

 

[Bodian]

The 10% baseline on everyone, including us, seems to still be in place.

This is the old ploy of putting forward the worst case - then reducing it to something still awful, but looks better, so everyone breathes a sigh of relief.

If he had started out by saying 10% on everyone - there would have been an outcry. But because he's now 'reduced' it to 10% on half the countries - everyone is thinking it's good. As you say though - there's no change for around half of the countries affected; we're still all on the new 10% tariff rate.

It's a bit like the developers who apply for 50 houses on the edge of a village in greenbelt, but really only want 30 - which they get and it's seen as a 'win' by those opposing it.

 

[Easy 10]

This is the old ploy of putting forward the worst case - then reducing it to something still awful, but looks better, so everyone breathes a sigh of relief.

If he had started out by saying 10% on everyone - there would have been an outcry. But because he's now 'reduced' it to 10% on half the countries - everyone is thinking it's good. As you say though - there's no change for around half of the countries affected; we're still all on the new 10% tariff rate.

It's a bit like the developers who apply for 50 houses on the edge of a village in greenbelt, but really only want 30 - which they get and it's seen as a 'win' by those opposing it.

Or when, say, a football club wants to build a 20,000 stadium on the South Downs, so it gets permission and gets built. Then before ya know it, a few years later, its gone up to 32,000. Smart policy.

Never drop a frog into boiling water, it'll leap out. Just put it in lukewarm, and then boil it slowly.

 

[Nobby]

Of all the sh*t happening over the last few days, I think it’s this part of his speech that should be replayed and replayed to all US trading “partners”

The UK is presumably one of those nations that is

“kissing my ass” and saying “please please sir, make it different”

What a state we have become

https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/09/politics/video/donald-trump-nrcc-president-dinner-tariff-negotiations-digvid

 

[Curious Orange]

You think America is going to turn to communism?!

It has been Comrade Trump's plan all along.

 

[Flounce]

All the ****s mates filled their boots a couple of hours ago now doubt

Been called out

 

[Greg Bobkin]

Of all the sh*t happening over the last few days, I think it’s this part of his speech that should be replayed and replayed to all US trading “partners”

The UK is presumably one of those nations that is

“kissing my ass” and saying “please please sir, make it different”

What a state we have become

https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/09/politics/video/donald-trump-nrcc-president-dinner-tariff-negotiations-digvid

But Trump lies all the time and this is just another example of it. Surely other world leaders can see that, but also know that they have to not rock the boat. I'd like to think that's what Starmer did/is doing in his dealings with Trump.

The mad thing, as I've said before, is that so many people STILL believe what he says. So when he blames it all on Biden and claims the markets were going to crash anyway, even without the tariffs, they just go along with it.

 

[raymondo]

Brazen, with his alt right cabal, in talking up the stock markets. Cringey, cosmetic, a smokescreen, cheapskate, unstatesmanlike. Could you imagine a PM say buy on the LSE or a German Chancellor encourage buying stocks today on the Börse Frankfurt?

The f@cker caused the crash.

And because he acts and talks like this all the time, it has become normalised - his supporters love his brazen self-confidence and the press has pretty much accepted the normalisation .

 

[Motogull]

I was beginning to wonder whether the Bunglekunnt deserved some credit and that his real plan was to end tariffs globally. Then I recalled he has said in no uncertain terms how wonderful they are.

We had Liberation Day, but what that entailed has been largely suspended. What does that mean, has it been deferred, or was it a flop?

He really should keep his mouth shut, but he can't.

Does anyone know what is next on his agenda when this tariffs thing fizzles out?

 

[Flounce]

I was beginning to wonder whether the Bunglekunnt deserved some credit and that his real plan was to end tariffs globally. Then I recalled he has said in no uncertain terms how wonderful they are.

We had Liberation Day, but what that entailed has been largely suspended. What does that mean, has it been deferred, or was it a flop?

He really should keep his mouth shut, but he can't.

Does anyone know what is next on his agenda when this tariffs thing fizzles out?

Back to ending the war in Ukraine, which seems to have been put on the back burner?

 

[DavidinSouthampton]

It's a really f***ing shitty world we live in, isn't it

…… and he’s making it shittier all the time.
I find myself wondering whether the rest of the world can work out how to avoid the problems and leave the USA in splendid isolation!

 

[nicko31]

BBC2 Newsnight just now … really good. Allianz chief economic advisor knows his onions, play it from the start.

Trump bottled it today due to the bond markets. But far more needs to happen to prevent a recession.

Important to remember China is the second largest holder of US bonds, circa $600 billion.

If they stopped buying or god forbid started selling the chaos would get far worse. Not sure if that would happen but the threat is there

 

[Since1982]

Back to ending the war in Ukraine, which seems to have been put on the back burner?

Didn't he do that on his first day in office as promised, or did I miss something?

 

[Papa Lazarou]

…… and he’s making it shittier all the time.
I find myself wondering whether the rest of the world can work out how to avoid the problems and leave the USA in splendid isolation!

They have to. With the orange shitgibbon in charge the US can't be relied on to hold any consistent position on pretty much anything. Best avoid