[Albion] The Terrace Opening this Saturday

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What time (if at all) do you intend getting to the Terrace?

  • No way am I going near it on the first day!

    Votes: 171 64.3%
  • I'll be in the queue well before opening time

    Votes: 7 2.6%
  • Before 1pm

    Votes: 12 4.5%
  • At some stage between 1pm and 4pm

    Votes: 54 20.3%
  • After 4pm

    Votes: 22 8.3%

  • Total voters
    266












ROSM

Well-known member
Dec 26, 2005
7,518
Just far enough away from LDC
Well for a start you need an operating license. Have the club got this? Who knows. But I can't think why they would have. All of their stadium/shop/ticketing digital transactions, including online, will be via a broker like a WorldPay, it is the broker who processes and stores the card details, the broker is tightly regulated and licensed to do this. If BHA have stored card details digitally or even on paper without a license to do so then they would be in a shit load of trouble.
So I don't know if this helps or doesn't but the staff taking the card details were American Express staff not albion. The purpose of the card was to get in/have the free drink voucher. Whilst they typed it in on the screen of their pad only the last 4 digits were visible. So a bit like giving your card details over the phone.

Also they were being very well lauded by ex albion and America express (and previously hsbc) director Peter Godfrey
 






Cotton Socks

Skint Supporter
Feb 20, 2017
2,527
Yup. Hence a 17 year old who was stopped from entering the ground a while back as the stewards had seen him drinking a can of beer and his ST came up as ‘child’. His dad had to argue the toss about him getting in.

I hope the club do realise the emphasis is on the person selling the beer to the underage person, not the other way round.
That's not the case. It's the licensee of the premises who risk their license if someone under the age of 18 is caught drinking, no matter where they bought it from.
The only exemption is if it's a sit down meal with adults & they're over 16.
Not sure I'd take the risk of losing the alcohol license of a 32k stadium because his Dad was giving him a sneaky beer. All it takes is a licensing inspector to be on the other side of the forcefield while that kid is walking through with his beer, being caught and then an application can be put forward to revoke the stadiums licence.
You may think it's 'harmless' but there would be a few thousand pissed off people if they couldn't get a beer because some 17 year old had been caught in the stadium with a can of beer. That's without putting forward the likelihood of his Dad passing him a sneaky half on the concourse.
Yes, under age drinking has gone on forever (I was very good at it), but gone are the days of just showing an NUS card or railway card that you stuck a passport photo to.
 


Talby

Meh.
Dec 24, 2023
486
Sussex
That's not the case. It's the licensee of the premises who risk their license if someone under the age of 18 is caught drinking, no matter where they bought it from.
The only exemption is if it's a sit down meal with adults & they're over 16.
Not sure I'd take the risk of losing the alcohol license of a 32k stadium because his Dad was giving him a sneaky beer. All it takes is a licensing inspector to be on the other side of the forcefield while that kid is walking through with his beer, being caught and then an application can be put forward to revoke the stadiums licence.
You may think it's 'harmless' but there would be a few thousand pissed off people if they couldn't get a beer because some 17 year old had been caught in the stadium with a can of beer. That's without putting forward the likelihood of his Dad passing him a sneaky half on the concourse.
Yes, under age drinking has gone on forever (I was very good at it), but gone are the days of just showing an NUS card or railway card that you stuck a passport photo to.
It was outside the ground and the law suggests the licensee should prevent it - not observe it and then refuse access. It’s about consumption.

The sale of alcohol to minors - it’s not harmless to them, but it’s not difficult for them to purchase alcohol anywhere. Including the Amex.
 




Bozza

You can change this
Helpful Moderator
Jul 4, 2003
58,713
Back in Sussex
Curious about demand for the Players' Awards screening and after party so I made a note of the tickets for sale when they were released at 9am.

Premium (£75) - 40
Standard (£65) - 286
11:30pm...

Premium - 18
Standard - 262

...so, assuming no further tickets have been put on sale today, that means 46 tickets have sold in total today.
 


Cotton Socks

Skint Supporter
Feb 20, 2017
2,527
It was outside the ground and the law suggests the licensee should prevent it - not observe it and then refuse access. It’s about consumption.

The sale of alcohol to minors - it’s not harmless to them, but it’s not difficult for them to purchase alcohol anywhere. Including the Amex.
Where do you consider outside the ground for it to be picked up by stewards?
It's also illegal for an adult to buy someone underage alcohol (different laws apply if it's on private premises).
If a 17 year old is walking around in a public place with a can of beer that his Dad has bought him, both father & son can end up with a criminal record & a fine. Highly bloody unlikely that it would happen, but it's not beyond the realms of possibility.
Surely prevention is observing that alcohol is being given to a minor & not giving them the opportunity to do it inside the ground by refusing entry?
Kids will find a way to get it, it would be odd if they didn't. I'm just looking at this from a licensing point of view & as a licensee you have to take reasonable steps to prevent underage drinking. One of those reasonable steps would be to prevent access to licensed premises if you had suspicions an adult was going to buy alcohol for a minor. I'm not looking at this from a moral view of underage drinking as it is what it is & it doesn't bother me (maybe it should?) I'm looking at it from the side of the business & their license.
 


Talby

Meh.
Dec 24, 2023
486
Sussex
Where do you consider outside the ground for it to be picked up by stewards?
It's also illegal for an adult to buy someone underage alcohol (different laws apply if it's on private premises).
If a 17 year old is walking around in a public place with a can of beer that his Dad has bought him, both father & son can end up with a criminal record & a fine. Highly bloody unlikely that it would happen, but it's not beyond the realms of possibility.
Surely prevention is observing that alcohol is being given to a minor & not giving them the opportunity to do it inside the ground by refusing entry?
Kids will find a way to get it, it would be odd if they didn't. I'm just looking at this from a licensing point of view & as a licensee you have to take reasonable steps to prevent underage drinking. One of those reasonable steps would be to prevent access to licensed premises if you had suspicions an adult was going to buy alcohol for a minor. I'm not looking at this from a moral view of underage drinking as it is what it is & it doesn't bother me (maybe it should?) I'm looking at it from the side of the business & their license.
The route from the train, to the force field. I’m aware the force field is the entry to BHAFC’s licensed area.

I get all of your points but you missed mine - which is that if the club exercise their rights then are they doing that consistently? They seem to be great at making examples of people but I would bet that the law is broken in the ground every single match. Not necessarily by Dads, but by the licensee serving directly.

Same for smoking/vaping, people powdering their noses in the WCs. I know the club cannot monitor everything but we all have to have our own house in order before we criticise others.
 












The Wookiee

Back From The Dead
Nov 10, 2003
15,609
Worthing
“The Heineken Fan Zone at the Terrace will open from 3pm on Wednesday 2 April ahead of the Premier League fixture.”


With the terrace now opening earlier than the concourses and with the club encouraging fans to arrive early, will the club extend the hours where you can use your ticket to travel ??
 


Tom Hark Preston Park

Will Post For Cash
Jul 6, 2003
74,025
“The Heineken Fan Zone at the Terrace will open from 3pm on Wednesday 2 April ahead of the Premier League fixture.”


With the terrace now opening earlier than the concourses and with the club encouraging fans to arrive early, will the club extend the hours where you can use your ticket to travel ??
Hardly likely. The travel concessions apply to the match, not to the pub next door
 








Gazwag

5 millionth post poster
Mar 4, 2004
31,311
Bexhill-on-Sea
“The Heineken Fan Zone at the Terrace will open from 3pm on Wednesday 2 April ahead of the Premier League fixture.”


With the terrace now opening earlier than the concourses and with the club encouraging fans to arrive early, will the club extend the hours where you can use your ticket to travel ??
Interesting that bottle tops are banned but they are openly encouraging fans to drink for nearly 5 hours before a game and then enter a stadium pissed up and expect them to act like adults. That worked really well on Saturday.
 


Milano

Well-known member
Aug 15, 2012
4,489
Sussex but not by the sea
Interesting that bottle tops are banned but they are openly encouraging fans to drink for nearly 5 hours before a game and then enter a stadium pissed up and expect them to act like adults. That worked really well on Saturday.
If there will now be more pissed fans than normal then all the more reason to ban bottle tops....

They are encouraging fans to spend more money at BHAFC. How many of our fans will really be in The Terrace at 3pm on a work/school day? Especially when there are far cheaper places to eat/drink in the city. Most of my pre-match spend is still going to go to a certain football 'playing' pub landlord!!
 


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