[Politics] Donald Trump, US President

[Brian Munich]

Well after Britain's own 8 year fiasco, Farage is still polling well so who knows.

But apparently the American electorate are more stupid than the British one, I've read it on here

Farage hasn't been in power, so is able to deflect any accountability over how Brexit has turned out. He's just been standing on the sidelines criticising saying how it's being done wrong. There's a massive difference.

 

[Flounce]

Bit more info about how it could be done (from the Guardian)

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You are assuming that America en masse is dumb enough to vote Vance in as President knowing what the end result is likely to be. Trump will be seen as toxic by the end of this term surely if he carries on like he’s started?

 

[Triggaaar]

You are assuming that America en masse is dumb enough to vote Vance in as President knowing what the end result is likely to be. Trump will be seen as toxic by the end of this term surely if he carries on like he’s started?

At the rate he's going, the world will be f***ed by the end of his term

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

Anyone directly comparing the Tories to the current American administration is quite wrong in my opinion. The conservatives may be all manner of things and were not doing a good job to say the least, but Trump and co are destabilising the whole world and taking a direct crack at American democracy in a way that is incredibly dangerous. The way they've flipped, along with their treatment of long-standing allies, whilst cozying up to our enemies is simply unprecedented in modern times, no British government would act in that way.

 

[Triggaaar]

Anyone directly comparing the Tories to the current American administration is quite wrong in my opinion. The conservatives may be all manner of things and were not doing a good job to say the least, but Trump and co are destabilising the whole world and taking a direct crack at American democracy in a way that is incredibly dangerous. The way they've flipped, asking with their treatment of long-standing allies whilst cozying up to our enemies is simply unprecedented in modern times, no British government would act in that way.

Exactly. People like Trump rarely get power in an established democracy, and likening him to others undermines just how damaging he is.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Elon Musk hands out $1m checks to voters amid Wisconsin supreme court election race

Musk denied he was buying votes but said the court election outcome would be critical to Trump’s agenda and ‘the future of civilization’

www.theguardian.com

He must be worried.

 

[Fignon's Ponytail]

Musk’s attorneys argued in filings with the court that Musk was exercising his free speech rights with the giveaways and any attempt to restrict that would violate both the Wisconsin and US constitutions.

So, yet again, its free speech rights...but ONLY when it suits them. Got it.

 

[A1X]

 

[SouthSaxon]

Musk’s attorneys argued in filings with the court that Musk was exercising his free speech rights with the giveaways and any attempt to restrict that would violate both the Wisconsin and US constitutions.

So, yet again, it’s free speech rights...but ONLY when it suits them. Got it.

Citizens United vs FEC strikes again. A 2010 SC ruling that classed political donations as an expression of free speech and removed campaign finance restrictions.

No coincidence that the US has descended into oligarchy since then. Wouldn’t be surprised if this argument wins.

 

[peterward]

 

[Greg Bobkin]

Someone needs to tell that guy that there aren't the same character limits in place for tweets as there used to be!

 

[SouthSaxon]

This entire thing needs to be seen through the lens of “they’ll cheat” and that nothing is impossible.

The c*** should be in prison already. Instead he’s the president. And he’ll trash anyone and anything to keep it that way.

“He won’t be able to do that” is naive to the point of absurd.

 

[Cordwainer]

Someone needs to tell that guy that there aren't the same character limits in place for tweets as there used to be!

I thk he dsnt knw tht.

 

[Bakero]

Surely if he can't be elected again, that makes him ineligible.

 

[raymondo]

Surely if he can't be elected again, that makes him ineligible.

Vance would be elected and then resign... IIUC

 

[raymondo]

You are assuming that America en masse is dumb enough to vote Vance in as President knowing what the end result is likely to be. Trump will be seen as toxic by the end of this term surely if he carries on like he’s started?

One would hope so.,. but this is the US electorate so....

 

[peterward]

Surely if he can't be elected again, that makes him ineligible.

President is elected, VP isn't and is only appointed by President.

Vance gets elected, with Trump as VP, resigns, then presidency goes to VP.

It's a legal loophole.

 

[Albion my Albion]

Truck Fump!

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Anyone directly comparing the Tories to the current American administration is quite wrong in my opinion. The conservatives may be all manner of things and were not doing a good job to say the least, but Trump and co are destabilising the whole world and taking a direct crack at American democracy in a way that is incredibly dangerous. The way they've flipped, asking with their treatment of long-standing allies whilst cozying up to our enemies is simply unprecedented in modern times, no British government would act in that way.

I agree that no Tory government would act this way.

A Farage government (heaven forfend) would, though.

 

[marlowe]

President is elected, VP isn't and is only appointed by President.

Vance gets elected, with Trump as VP, resigns, then presidency goes to VP.

It's a legal loophole.

Trump is also ineligible to serve as VP because to serve as VP you have to also be eligible to serve as president, which Trump isn't, so that loophole is closed