[News] US Security Leak

[Pevenseagull]

Incredibly they are going to bullshit their way out of this. The fact that the journlist could be working for the KGB who I'm sure would be delighted to pass the details on to the Houthis seems to be neither here nor there to them.

This seems a good time to remind people that the son of an ex head of the KGB owns The Evening Standard and sits in the House Of Lords.


....I'm still struggling to come to terms with that little nugget.

 

[South Stand Bonfire]

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This administration seem hellbent on alienating the world against the US... why? Firstly it was Canada, Mexico and China and then they turned their aim to Europe.

My biggest question though is, Why are we trying to rub shoulders with these guys? They insult us at every opportunity. They put a levy on our steel, which as we speak has gone unanswered and to cap it all, we are told that we are apparently not doing our bit in terms of defence and to up our game. Why are we putting up with this?

In return we have offered a second State Visit and stand by the sentiment that we have a "Special relationship" which has never been stronger. It’s time for those in power to wake up and grow a backbone.

I personally can’t wait for the second state visit, if it’s hopefully in London. Assuming it’s not on a Brighton match day, I for one am looking forward to giving Trump the welcome he’s going to get from the British public……

 

[US Seagull]

 

[Tubby Mondays]

This seems a good time to remind people that the son of an ex head of the KGB owns The Evening Standard and sits in the House Of Lords.


....I'm still struggling to come to terms with that little nugget.

Whats left of the Evening standard...

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

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I personally can’t wait for the second state visit, if it’s hopefully in London. Assuming it’s not on a Brighton match day, I for one am looking forward to giving Trump the welcome he’s going to get from the British public……

You'll only find out about it after he's left

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

This seems a good time to remind people that the son of an ex head of the KGB owns The Evening Standard and sits in the House Of Lords.


....I'm still struggling to come to terms with that little nugget.

This must be fake news. No competent and incorruptible government would allow this to happen.

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

It simply comes down to the US democratic system and what can be done about a president and political party which is off the rails. Trump and his team can break all the US laws in existence and their punishment is determined by their own party.

The US system is broken.

This is probably the case in most democratic countries though, including ours. Once you win an election and you've got a decent majority in the legislature, there's not really a mechanism to bypass the party in power. The government will only unravel if the electorate have an impending opportunity to vote the legislators out and they look willing to do so.

Trump will 100% be confident of just riding this out

 

[schmunk]

This must be fake news. No competent and incorruptible government would allow this to happen.

Correct.

Boris Johnson's Tories did, though.

 

[Triggaaar]

This is probably the case in most democratic countries though, including ours.

It's nothing like it in ours, we have far more checks and balances. Our PM can't pardon him/herself for breaking the law, and if they go rogue there can be a simple vote of no confidence, which only needs a majority of 1 to pass. Also, our PM can't just pass any law they like, they need such laws to go through the house of commons and the house of lords. Trump is proving able to do anything he likes, because their democracy is not as well set up as ours.

 

[Cordwainer]

A quote attributed to a post lunch Hegseth stated that the Signalgate perpetrator was a Wike Maltz?

 

[US Seagull]

It's nothing like it in ours, we have far more checks and balances. Our PM can't pardon him/herself for breaking the law, and if they go rogue there can be a simple vote of no confidence, which only needs a majority of 1 to pass. Also, our PM can't just pass any law they like, they need such laws to go through the house of commons and the house of lords. Trump is proving able to do anything he likes, because their democracy is not as well set up as ours.

TBF, the president can't pass laws by himself either. Which is why he is (ab)using XOs. Which aren't laws, but he is treating as if they were.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Whats left of the Evening standard...

The Sudoku is great!

 

[US Seagull]

This is probably the case in most democratic countries though, including ours. Once you win an election and you've got a decent majority in the legislature, there's not really a mechanism to bypass the party in power. The government will only unravel if the electorate have an impending opportunity to vote the legislators out and they look willing to do so.

Trump will 100% be confident of just riding this out

The frustrating thing is that all it would take is a handful of Republicans in the house and in the senate to end this clown show. But they all lack the spine to stand up and do it.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

It's nothing like it in ours, we have far more checks and balances. Our PM can't pardon him/herself for breaking the law, and if they go rogue there can be a simple vote of no confidence, which only needs a majority of 1 to pass. Also, our PM can't just pass any law they like, they need such laws to go through the house of commons and the house of lords. Trump is proving able to do anything he likes, because their democracy is not as well set up as ours.

Johnson had a good try.
In doing so he reminded us all of the difference between should and must.
Basically if you must do something. you must.
But when told you should do something then you don't have to.
I never knew that.
I should have, but I didn't.

 

[Triggaaar]

TBF, the president can't pass laws by himself either. Which is why he is (ab)using XOs. Which aren't laws, but he is treating as if they were.

The XOs are being treated as laws. I'm not sure there's any test case to mean they're not. There's no mechanism for a UK PM to do similarly.

 

[Triggaaar]

Johnson had a good try.
In doing so he reminded us all of the difference between should and must.
Basically if you must do something. you must.
But when told you should do something then you don't have to.
I never knew that.
I should have, but I didn't.

I can't remember Johnsons case, but my experience of UK contact law is that should and must are treated similarly, in that if you should do something, but don't, then you're likely to be in breach of something.

 

[Papa Lazarou]

Hoping this hasn't been added yet.

 

[Anger]

 

[Scappa]

 

[A1X]

Incredibly they are going to bullshit their way out of this. The fact that the journlist could be working for the KGB who I'm sure would be delighted to pass the details on to the Houthis seems to be neither here nor there to them.

This is how they work now, obfuscate, deny and then lie about it until it goes away. Nobody is ever held accountable.

And it’s not just in this current administration, or even just in the US. Look at Johnson’s government over here, exactly the same modus operandi.