[Politics] Donald Trump, US President

[Hugo Rune]

Bit of a difference though, Boris is both intelligent articulate - neither of which meant he was suitable for high office.

If you equate intelligence with judgment, then no, Johnson is not intelligent at all.

He makes up his own narrative and reality based on what he thinks is best for him personally. Trying to run a country like that is liable to get you the nickname ‘shopping trolley’ as whilst he was concerned about his next holiday or the wallpaper in his Downing Street flat, others (some unelected) were able to steer the baffoon in any direction they so desired.

 

[Papa Lazarou]

If you equate intelligence with judgment, then no, Johnson is not intelligent at all.

He makes up his own narrative and reality based on what he thinks is best for him personally. Trying to run a country like that is liable to get you the nickname ‘shopping trolley’ as whilst he was concerned about his next holiday or the wallpaper in his Downing Street flat, others (some unelected) were able to steer the baffoon in any direction they so desired.

Johnson was / is charismatic, which seems to be mistaken for intellect these days.

 

[Simster]

Bit of a difference though, Boris is both intelligent articulate - neither of which meant he was suitable for high office.

I don't think either of those are particularly true. Granted, he wasn't notably less intelligent or articulate than the average MP, BUT he wasn't elected for those reasons was he? He was elected because he said things that stupid people liked to hear, despite being a proven untrustworthy, serial liar and had a proven record of being too lazy to get things done properly and with the appropriate levels of care and attention to detail.

The man was a total twat with a cult following (of utterly gullible simpletons) and to their eternal shame, the Conservatives made him their leader in order to keep hold of power, despite knowing he was demonstrably unfit for office.

It's no good preaching to the Americans over Trump when our own flimsy system of checks and balances singularly let down our own country by allowing that disgusting mess into power. It's exactly the same - not different at all.

 

[BadFish]

Johnson was / is charismatic, which seems to be mistaken for intellect these days.

Got a posh voice too, that fools a lot of people.

 

[Papa Lazarou]

Got a posh voice too, that fools a lot of people.

See also Rees-Mogg, Jacob *

* Who is nothing but a posh voice - zero charisma

 

[BadFish]

See also Rees-Mogg, Jacob

Oh god, do I have to. I thought about him when. I posted and that was bad enough.

 

[Bakero]

Boris is a twat with a veneer of intellect. Trump is a twat with a veneer of twat.

 

[raymondo]

 

[raymondo]

Expect a high level of dysfunction in the US administration as large numbers of knowledge have been fired by Musk and Trump across the board:

 

[Greg Bobkin]

I have a couple of questions about Trump and Co's strategy.

How does he expect to get 'the lowest level of unemployment anyone has ever seen ever', when his mate keeps firing swaths of people and shutting down departments?

And it's all very well getting rid of these horrendous 'foreign' people who are – apparently – doing the worst things ever humanly possible, but what do they plan to do with the 'proper' US citizens (y'know, the white ones, who they like) who go around killing people with their guns that they love so much? What about sorting THAT problem out?

 

[Triggaaar]

No worse than Boris Johnson being popular with so many Brits.

I hated Boris, but Trump is in a completely different league and comparing them misses the point.

 

[Insel affe]

I have a couple of questions about Trump and Co's strategy.

How does he expect to get 'the lowest level of unemployment anyone has ever seen ever', when his mate keeps firing swaths of people and shutting down departments?

And it's all very well getting rid of these horrendous 'foreign' people who are – apparently – doing the worst things ever humanly possible,

Yeah, I am following you....

but what do they plan to do with the 'proper' US citizens (y'know, the white ones, who they like) who go around killing people with their guns that they love so much? What about sorting THAT problem out?

Eeerrrr......

Nothing, apart from the fact the voted for Trump, they have guns and lot's of them.....

 

[Simster]

I hated Boris, but Trump is in a completely different league and comparing them misses the point.

The only difference I see is that Trump has zero respect from almost everybody outside of his own country, and the only ones that do respect him are the ones with a vested interest in doing so - Putin and Netanyahu.

But ultimately, Trump is playing to a gallery of morons domestically by saying and doing things those hard of thinking cretins want him to do. The fact that he is damaging world peace and international trade is a small price to pay as far as he's concerned. There's the similarity with Johnson - no bigger picture price is too great for him to maintain his own position.

 

[Triggaaar]

How does he expect to get 'the lowest level of unemployment anyone has ever seen ever', when his mate keeps firing swaths of people and shutting down departments?

He won't, and when that becomes clear even to his followers, he'll say he was just being sarcastic.

 

[Triggaaar]

The only difference I see is that Trump has zero respect from almost everybody outside of his own country, and the only ones that do respect him are the ones with a vested interest in doing so - Putin and Netanyahu.

But ultimately, Trump is playing to a gallery of morons domestically by saying and doing things those hard of thinking cretins want him to do. The fact that he is damaging world peace and international trade is a small price to pay as far as he's concerned. There's the similarity with Johnson - no bigger picture price is too great for him to maintain his own position.

Just to mention a few things, Trump incited the insurrection on capitol, pretended he didn't, and then pardoned the people that did; he's dismantling the US constitution and removing democracy from the US; he's siding with an evil genocidal dictator, selling Ukraine down the river, and causing many thousands of deaths.

I have no idea how you can compare him to Johnson. Johnson did what was best for himself, but never at the cost of hundreds of thousands of lives, and not at the cost of democracy.

 

[Insel affe]

Just to mention a few things, Trump incited the insurrection on capitol, pretended he didn't, and then pardoned the people that did; he's dismantling the US constitution and removing democracy from the US; he's siding with an evil genocidal dictator, selling Ukraine down the river, and causing many thousands of deaths.

I have no idea how you can compare him to Johnson. Johnson did what was best for himself, but never at the cost of hundreds of thousands of lives, and not at the cost of democracy.

You forgot the small issue of siding with Israel as well and creating a Las Vegas on the coast.

 

[Triggaaar]

You forgot the small issue of siding with Israel as well and creating a Las Vegas on the coast.

Indeed, it's easy to forget a lot of what he's done. You can throw Panama, Canada and Greenland in there too.

 

[SouthSaxon]

The only difference I see is that Trump has zero respect from almost everybody outside of his own country, and the only ones that do respect him are the ones with a vested interest in doing so - Putin and Netanyahu.

But ultimately, Trump is playing to a gallery of morons domestically by saying and doing things those hard of thinking cretins want him to do. The fact that he is damaging world peace and international trade is a small price to pay as far as he's concerned. There's the similarity with Johnson - no bigger picture price is too great for him to maintain his own position.

There is a similarity in that both have maintained false un-evidenced views for decades - for Boris’s bendy bananas, read Trump’s trade deficits.

Both characters are self-serving. Both are narcissistic.

The big difference, in my unqualified* opinion, is that Trump has a full-blown narcissistic personality disorder where Boris merely has an elevated level of narcissism (a normal trait that we all have to some degree, he just has it more).

* I can’t emphasise that enough, so please take with a large pinch of salt

 

[Scappa]

Nvm

 

[hans kraay fan club]

I have no idea how you can compare him to Johnson. Johnson did what was best for himself, but never at the cost of hundreds of thousands of lives, and not at the cost of democracy.

The actions of Johnson and his cabinet during Covid undoubtably DID cost many thousands of lives, and the proroguing of parliament was literally an assault on democracy.

Johnson is very like Trump - just with less power when it came to it. The checks and balances worked a little better here, that's all.