[Albion] Matt O Riley [26/08/24 - sings on a 5-year deal]

[sparkie]

It would appear so.

I just wanted to know how long he might be out so that I can properly calibrate how much bed wetting to do.

If there is any chance this has impacted our transfer window plans - eg negotiating a loan of a replacement player - there will be no news released until Saturday at the earliest.

The only chance of hearing anything before that is if it is good news.

 

[5Ways Gull]

I think some people have lost all sense of reality during their online arguments with strangers about a unknown scenario

Meanwhile, here's another question to chuck out there, would fans be as apoplectic with rage if was one of the regulars that got clattered, as opposed to a shiny new singing? A lot of the narrative seems to be around how it was only minutes into his debut, as if that makes it worse, somehow?

A bad tackle is a bad tackle, no?

I certainly would be just as angry if it was an established player.

I have seen a couple of posts criticising FH for playing him the day after signing in a "meaningless match"?? One of these was on the BBC site. Dont get that at all.

 

[ATFC Seagull]

I certainly would be just as angry if it was an established player.

I have seen a couple of posts criticising FH for playing him the day after signing in a "meaningless match"?? One of these was on the BBC site. Dont get that at all.

No it doesn't make sense at all.

O'Riley has been playing so is fit. He's also been playing in Scotland which is just as physical (probably more so) than the English lower leagues, and was an L1 player three years ago. It was the perfect chance to get him up and running.

 

[Triggaaar]

Meanwhile, here's another question to chuck out there, would fans be as apoplectic with rage if was one of the regulars that got clattered, as opposed to a shiny new singing?

A bad tackle is a bad tackle, no?

Yes. If Pedro, Van Hecke, Dunk or Mitoma had been injured for 5 months due to someone deliberately trying to hurt them, then yes, people would still be really pissed off.

Because it wasn't just a bad tackle. We've had other people injured through bad tackles, but this stands out because Williams deliberately set out to hurt Matt.

 

[sparkie]

Yes. If Pedro, Van Hecke, Dunk or Mitoma had been injured for 5 months due to someone deliberately trying to hurt them, then yes, people would still be really pissed off.

Because it wasn't just a bad tackle. We've had other people injured through bad tackles, but this stands out because Williams deliberately set out to hurt Matt.

And he smirked to wind up Webster. Thankfully Adam knew his game and didn't throw a punch.

 

[dwayne]

 

[Hiheidi]

Doesn't sound good if Billy is staying because of it.

 

[um bongo molongo]

It’s a disgraceful tackle, almost certainly deliberate, and there’s been zero contrition from the player himself. Only a ham fisted apology from the manager who sent him out there to put in some ‘reducers’. It’s also noteworthy since (thankfully) those kind of leg breaker challenges are quite rare these days, especially in the more rarefied confines of the PL where these types of clogger no longer survive. It has also put a player who cost a lot of money and was key to how FH wants to play out for (probably) a number of months, and possibly a very long time.

So we’re allowed to be p*ssed off, and to call out Williams as a talentless thug and the Crawley management as c***s for the 1980s game plan. The apologists can f*** off.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Yes. If Pedro, Van Hecke, Dunk or Mitoma had been injured for 5 months due to someone deliberately trying to hurt them, then yes, people would still be really pissed off.

Because it wasn't just a bad tackle. We've had other people injured through bad tackles, but this stands out because Williams deliberately set out to hurt Matt.

Mitoma was out for months following a nasty ‘tackle’ from a Sheff Utd player. I recall many ranting about that, too.

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

I think some people have lost all sense of reality during their online arguments with strangers about a unknown scenario

Meanwhile, here's another question to chuck out there, would fans be as apoplectic with rage if was one of the regulars that got clattered, as opposed to a shiny new singing? A lot of the narrative seems to be around how it was only minutes into his debut, as if that makes it worse, somehow?

A bad tackle is a bad tackle, no?

There is truth in what you say. However in practise things do not work like that for most people. I have often seen posts on social media complaining 'a life is a life' and whilst that is true a loss of life close to home, Brighton, Eastbourne, Sussex, England etc can often be felt more keenly than a loss of life in say Germany, France, Afghanistan etc. In those cases it's about the feeling of social connection outweighing the fact that human life is and should be regarded as equal in value.

In this case yes there is a justifiable sense of extra outrage. Humans frame their responses from context as well as value. If the context is that something new is perceived to have higher value than something older but of equal worth, then the upset state of mind will be emphasised. Like buying a lovely new car, a dent or scratch or a tear in the upholstery will be regarded with more pain than were the car 6 months old.

So yes there are good reasons fans are reacting this way even if the corollary is one that shows that the tackle should be regarded in the same way whichever player was unfortunate to be on the end of it.

 

[Bodian]

Similarly. Most people here I think thought that was a disgraceful assault by Andone versus Stains … and cost us a loss. I realise some said it was fair challenge!

And he hardly played for us again as a result. Same with Dahoud actually.

 

[El Turi]

Is Hurzeler doing his press conference at 9am today? If so, we should know more soon.

 

[saafend_seagull]

Wieffer and Gilmour combo I am fine with…good that we have been firm in not letting him go!

 

[Hamilton]

Guesswork from a hack.

I doubt Billy is going because Napoli wouldn’t pay what he’s worth and we don’t need to let him go.

Anyhow, let’s hope Matty boy is better than we fear.

 

[brighton_tom]

How can it be off if no agreement was in place? It was never on… Maybe Napoli just never met our valuation.

 

[Hiheidi]

 

[El Turi]

It’s a serious injury that needs surgery. No timeframe given. Terrible news.

 

[Bridcutt]

f***ing hell

 

[Deportivo Seagull]

I think some people have lost all sense of reality during their online arguments with strangers about a unknown scenario

Meanwhile, here's another question to chuck out there, would fans be as apoplectic with rage if was one of the regulars that got clattered, as opposed to a shiny new singing? A lot of the narrative seems to be around how it was only minutes into his debut, as if that makes it worse, somehow?

A bad tackle is a bad tackle, no?

yes I most certainly would. That wasn’t a bad tackle, a bad tackle is down to poor timing, that went beyond poor timing. That was so late you could measure it with a calendar.

 

[Peppermint Tea]

It’s a disgraceful tackle, almost certainly deliberate, and there’s been zero contrition from the player himself. Only a ham fisted apology from the manager who sent him out there to put in some ‘reducers’. It’s also noteworthy since (thankfully) those kind of leg breaker challenges are quite rare these days, especially in the more rarefied confines of the PL where these types of clogger no longer survive. It has also put a player who cost a lot of money and was key to how FH wants to play out for (probably) a number of months, and possibly a very long time.

So we’re allowed to be p*ssed off, and to call out Williams as a talentless thug and the Crawley management as c***s for the 1980s game plan. The apologists can f*** off.

this. Spot on, Sir.

I am consoling myself that karma is a bitch and that thug Jay Williams and his merry band of cloggers and their sad, sneering fans are gonna get bitten hard by it.

Might not be today, might not be tomorrow, but it is happening. And I will wait patiently for the moment.