[Politics] Harbingers of Doom?

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Feb 23, 2009
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Brighton factually.....


At 59, with one grandchild here and another one on the way in less than 2 months, coming across things like this on the internet is a tad worrying.

I appreciate social media has created a broadchurch of opinions, and the internet effectively gives every crank who can use a computer a platform, but are we that close to society breaking down?

I sincerely hope not.

Great stuff, completely ruined the weekend that has, thanks for that...

THIS IS NOT A FRIDAY AFTERNOON POST....

Doom & Gloom posts and threads are only permitted 5 mins before the final whistle on match day.....

Christ, I thought you had been on here long enough to know this....
 




Commander

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I find it truly astonishing how such a high proportion of the human race completely dismiss the idea of some kind of apocalypse or extinction. We’ve been on this planet for a tiny, tiny spec of time, and have another 165 million years to go to challenge the dinosaurs. 99% of species that have ever lived on Earth have gone extinct- why are people so sure it won’t be us next? We are absolutely out of control at the moment, and it is not going to end well.
 


Feb 23, 2009
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Brighton factually.....
I find it truly astonishing how such a high proportion of the human race completely dismiss the idea of some kind of apocalypse or extinction. We’ve been on this planet for a tiny, tiny spec of time, and have another 165 million years to go to challenge the dinosaurs. 99% of species that have ever lived on Earth have gone extinct- why are people so sure it won’t be us next? We are absolutely out of control at the moment, and it is not going to end well.
This, and knowing my bloody luck I will be around to witness the mayhem of social breakdown and all the horrors that will bring.
Sometimes I feel guilty for bringing my daughter into this shit show, I hope she does not have witness it either, that is my biggest fear her fate.
 


Blue3

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It is true that everyone and everything has a life cycle from conception through birth the storming, norming and performing stage but everyone and everything will eventually collapse this is not an opinion it is a fact, We can slow the process down but we cannot stop it.

It might happen in the next 100 years or the next 10,000 years or 10 million years but it will happen
 


Commander

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This, and knowing my bloody luck I will be around to witness the mayhem of social breakdown and all the horrors that will bring.
Sometimes I feel guilty for bringing my daughter into this shit show, I hope she does not have witness it either, that is my biggest fear her fate.
Yeah same. You can't regret having kids, but I think I would if the breakdown of humanity happened to coincide with mine being alive.

The vast majority of people alive today are probably the most poorly equipped to deal with societal breakdown that have ever lived.
 




Bakero

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I find it truly astonishing how such a high proportion of the human race completely dismiss the idea of some kind of apocalypse or extinction. We’ve been on this planet for a tiny, tiny spec of time, and have another 165 million years to go to challenge the dinosaurs. 99% of species that have ever lived on Earth have gone extinct- why are people so sure it won’t be us next? We are absolutely out of control at the moment, and it is not going to end well.

I don't dismiss the idea but I do think it's highly unlikely that I'll find out about it via a YouTube video posted on NSC by a funeral director.
 




Greg Bobkin

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I find it truly astonishing how such a high proportion of the human race completely dismiss the idea of some kind of apocalypse or extinction. We’ve been on this planet for a tiny, tiny spec of time, and have another 165 million years to go to challenge the dinosaurs. 99% of species that have ever lived on Earth have gone extinct- why are people so sure it won’t be us next? We are absolutely out of control at the moment, and it is not going to end well.
I'm not dismissing it, I'm seriously questioning THIS prediction because a) it was made in 1972 and b) there have been HUNDREDS of other similar predictions about when the world is going to end that, given we're still here, have been SHITEHOUSE.
 




Commander

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I don't dismiss the idea but I do think it's highly unlikely that I'll find out about it via a YouTube video posted on NSC by a funeral director.
I guess he'd do alright out of it.
 


Mustafa II

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I find it truly astonishing how such a high proportion of the human race completely dismiss the idea of some kind of apocalypse or extinction. We’ve been on this planet for a tiny, tiny spec of time, and have another 165 million years to go to challenge the dinosaurs. 99% of species that have ever lived on Earth have gone extinct- why are people so sure it won’t be us next? We are absolutely out of control at the moment, and it is not going to end well.

The dinosaurs never developed technology, after all that time. They were essentially roaming the earth for hundreds of millions of years, achieving nothing, making no advancements, waiting for an inevitable and incredibly rare catastrophic disaster to occur and kill them all, and that's what happened to 75% of all life on earth.

Fortunately though, our ancestors survived, and eventually became human beings. We've always been incredibly creative, using technology since the day we came into being. Considering the history of earth, 20,000 years is 'blink and you'll miss it' ... but what we've achieved in that time is unbelievable really.

But even more incredible, is what we've done in the last 150 years. The rate of technological advancements gets quicker, and quicker, due our capabilities to use technology and information... we were progressing at light speed, but now we're at hyper speed. From flight to space in a matter of decades. Local telephone exchanges, to wireless high speed internet smothering the globe. Electric cars. Robotics. AI. VR. Quantum computing. Nuclear fusion......

The rate of our advancements are showing no sign of slowing. In fact they're getting even faster. It's difficult to really appreciate what is happening, because we're present and living it... but in reality if aliens are watching us, they would be in absolute awe of what we're doing.

Unlike the dinosaurs, we are not just roaming the earth and waiting for our inevitable death... we are becoming so technologically advanced that we will be able to overcome ANY kind of threat to our existence.
 
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rippleman

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Oct 18, 2011
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The world WILL come to an end. The only question is when?

Yellowstone or any other supervolcano could blow any time causing ash clouds that would pollute water sources and block out the sun.

The moon's orbit is slowly but surely moving away from the earth. That will continue and eventually be far enough away that the gravitational pull of the moon will lessen. No moon. No tides.

An asteroid could hit us at any time. It's happened at least once before. Ask the dinosaurs. Oh wait, they all died.

We could enter the sixth ice age.

A supernova could fire gamma rays directly at the earth. That would wipe us out if the supernova was within 100 light years and the ray was directed at us..

There are so many real doomsday scenarios; not enough hours in the day to worry about them all.

Don't have nightmares. Do sleep well.
 




All this bollix is just weirdos doing their best to distract you from demanding politicians take simple steps to address the climate crisis. This week, we now have both main UK parties watering down their commitments to do anything substantial about it for the rest of the 2020s
 


Commander

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The dinosaurs never developed technology, after all that time. They were essentially roaming the earth for hundreds of millions of years, achieving nothing, making no advancements, waiting for an inevitable and incredibly rare catastrophic disaster to occur and kill them all, and that's what happened to 99% of all life on earth.

Fortunately though, our ancestors survived, and eventually became human beings. We've always been incredibly creative, using technology since the day we came into being. Considering the history of earth, 20,000 years is 'blink and you'll miss it' ... but what we've achieved in that time is unbelievable really.

But even more incredible, is what we've done in the last 150 years. The rate of technological advancements gets quicker, and quicker, due our capabilities to use technology and information... we were progressing at light speed, but now we're at hyper speed. From flight to space in a matter of decades. Local telephone exchanges, to wireless high speed internet smothering the globe. Electric cars. Robotics. AI. VR. Quantum computing. Nuclear fusion......

The rate of our advancements are showing no sign of slowing. In fact they're getting even faster. It's difficult to really appreciate what is happening, because we're present and living it... but in reality if aliens are watching us, they would be in absolute awe of what we're doing.

Unlike the dinosaurs, we are not just roaming the earth and waiting for our inevitable death... we are becoming so technologically advanced that we will be able to overcome ANY kind of threat to our existence.
That's kind of my point though- that we advancing so fast technologically that we will probably somehow wipe ourselves out with it. If a group of Chimps suddenly developed AK47's I doubt their species would last all that much longer.
 


Commander

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All this bollix is just weirdos doing their best to distract you from demanding politicians take simple steps to address the climate crisis. This week, we now have both main UK parties watering down their commitments to do anything substantial about it for the rest of the 2020s
You think Humans will be around forever?
 






Mustafa II

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That's kind of my point though- that we advancing so fast technologically that we will probably somehow wipe ourselves out with it. If a group of Chimps suddenly developed AK47's I doubt their species would last all that much longer.

Can't agree with your use of the word 'probably', seeing as there is absolutely no evidence of that happening so far. I'll give you 'possibly', at a push.

There is always a 'possibility' that AI will create some kind of unstoppable malevolence, or that messing around with quantum particles will create some kind of anti-matter that will consume the entire universe. Or maybe bashing hadrons together at close to light speed will create a black hole on earth. It could all be possible of course, but 'probable', no. The fact we're so aware of the potential risks with emerging technologies suggests that we aren't going to allow them destroy us.

I would say it's more probable, given current trends, that our technological advances will continue exponentially, as they have been. We will advance to free and limitless energy - knowledge and information, and with it technology, will continue to progress so rapidly that we will eventually become like gods, no longer bound by physical limitations. Space travel will become effortless. Natural disasters, pandemics, comets - none of it will be able to touch us, as we learn to control the physics of the universe and the biology of ourselves, as we ultimately colonise the solar system and the galaxy.
 


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At 59, with one grandchild here and another one on the way in less than 2 months, coming across things like this on the internet is a tad worrying.

I appreciate social media has created a broadchurch of opinions, and the internet effectively gives every crank who can use a computer a platform, but are we that close to society breaking down?

I sincerely hope not.

No we aren’t, there is a tiny section of society (coming from America) who want the world to end so they can become kings of their tiny kingdoms (and their tiny penises).

The world isn’t going to end anytime soon. I’d stay away from nonsense like this as you’ll get algo’d into more and more until it is all you see and you start to believe it.
 






Feb 23, 2009
23,134
Brighton factually.....
I would say it's more probable, given current trends, that our technological advances will continue exponentially, as they have been. We will advance to free and limitless energy - knowledge and information, and with it technology, will continue to progress so rapidly that we will eventually become like gods, no longer bound by physical limitations. Space travel will become effortless. Natural disasters, pandemics, comets - none of it will be able to touch us, as we learn to control the physics of the universe and the biology of ourselves, as we ultimately colonise the solar system and the galaxy.
We could have already done this and the aliens visiting us allegedly, could be us from the future visiting us in past...
Have you thunk about that puppy
 


Westdene Seagull

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Oct 27, 2003
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I was convinced when I got up on January 1st 2000, that I would be dressing in a silver jumpsuit, my breakfast would be in the form of a pill, I would jump into my hover car to go to work, and my work colleagues would be humanoid robots.


That didn’t happen either.
You're lucky some of us were dedicated enough to pick up huge amounts of overtime and bonuses to prevent Y2K actually coming true ;)
 


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