[Football] Evan Ferguson- Free To Collector

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Eeyore

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Looking in Twitter, I am more glad than ever, and I'm glad enough as it is, that I don't support (loose term) a big six/seven (delete as app) club.

Some of the Irish Fergie chat is nauseous and, to use that popular phrase, deluded.

It's as if we are a charity shop that folk come and spend a tenner in. Or, even more apt, the outside of that terraced house in your road where the students are moving home and need to get rid of a load of tat to do the final clean for the landlord. Free to collector..

Some folk get it, and noticeably Irish folk are saying almost in one accord that he should stay at Brighton.

I rather feel sorry for some fans though. The new age of entitlement seems to have seeped into the consciousness of football fans too. No, you can't have Evan Ferguson, and no amount of throwing yourself on the floor of the Twitter cesspit and yelling 'It's not fair, Liverpool are getting Macallister', will change our minds.
 








Nobby Cybergoat

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Jul 19, 2021
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Looking in Twitter, I am more glad than ever, and I'm glad enough as it is, that I don't support (loose term) a big six/seven (delete as app) club.

Some of the Irish Fergie chat is nauseous and, to use that popular phrase, deluded.

It's as if we are a charity shop that folk come and spend a tenner in. Or, even more apt, the outside of that terraced house in your road where the students are moving home and need to get rid of a load of tat to do the final clean for the landlord. Free to collector..

Some folk get it, and noticeably Irish folk are saying almost in one accord that he should stay at Brighton.

I rather feel sorry for some fans though. The new age of entitlement seems to have seeped into the consciousness of football fans too. No, you can't have Evan Ferguson, and no amount of throwing yourself on the floor of the Twitter cesspit and yelling 'It's not fair, Liverpool are getting Macallister', will change our minds.
Question. Why do you bother to read that shit?
 










Oh_aye

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Jul 8, 2022
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Looking in Twitter, I am more glad than ever, and I'm glad enough as it is, that I don't support (loose term) a big six/seven (delete as app) club.

Some of the Irish Fergie chat is nauseous and, to use that popular phrase, deluded.

It's as if we are a charity shop that folk come and spend a tenner in. Or, even more apt, the outside of that terraced house in your road where the students are moving home and need to get rid of a load of tat to do the final clean for the landlord. Free to collector..

Some folk get it, and noticeably Irish folk are saying almost in one accord that he should stay at Brighton.

I rather feel sorry for some fans though. The new age of entitlement seems to have seeped into the consciousness of football fans too. No, you can't have Evan Ferguson, and no amount of throwing yourself on the floor of the Twitter cesspit and yelling 'It's not fair, Liverpool are getting Macallister', will change our minds.
It's an odd thing alright. I was in a conversation with an arsenal fan recently who seemed genuinely annoyed at ME and to a lesser extent Brighton. Because in his words 'we would have won the league with Caicedo'.

It's such an odd argument to be stuck in as you get trapped in some strange semantic, existential territory.

I was left just sort of saying 'er yeah but he plays for us. And we also needed him'.

He just couldn't grasp the idea that everyone else doesn't exist to service his preferences. So odd. Like arguing with a toddler about why it can't play with a chainsaw. You hope the inherent madness in their proposition would become apparent but it just doesn't.
 




Eeyore

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Eeyore

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We're a Top 6 club, not a Big 6 Club.

Top 6 is decided on merit (and particularly if you're not a ptro-dollar backed entity), Big 6 is created by the TV companies and probably not something to be aspired to.
Quite
 


PeterT

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Apr 21, 2017
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It's an odd thing alright. I was in a conversation with an arsenal fan recently who seemed genuinely annoyed at ME and to a lesser extent Brighton. Because in his words 'we would have won the league with Caicedo'.

It's such an odd argument to be stuck in as you get trapped in some strange semantic, existential territory.

I was left just sort of saying 'er yeah but he plays for us. And we also needed him'.

He just couldn't grasp the idea that everyone else doesn't exist to service his preferences. So odd. Like arguing with a toddler about why it can't play with a chainsaw. You hope the inherent madness in their proposition would become apparent but it just doesn't.
I explained to a friend a simplified example of how betting works.

If you put £10 on Arsenal to win the League, you lose £10 … 😆
 






Nobby Cybergoat

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Jul 19, 2021
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It's an odd thing alright. I was in a conversation with an arsenal fan recently who seemed genuinely annoyed at ME and to a lesser extent Brighton. Because in his words 'we would have won the league with Caicedo'.

It's such an odd argument to be stuck in as you get trapped in some strange semantic, existential territory.

I was left just sort of saying 'er yeah but he plays for us. And we also needed him'.

He just couldn't grasp the idea that everyone else doesn't exist to service his preferences. So odd. Like arguing with a toddler about why it can't play with a chainsaw. You hope the inherent madness in their proposition would become apparent but it just doesn't.
Best option is always not to engage. Educating them, or at least inviting them to exercising the most basic critical logic, means that the massive crash with reality they experience becomes less severe. Why waste your time to ease their suffering?
 


Nobby Cybergoat

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I think Calciedo and MacAllister will be our first £100m players. All this media nonsense about a £70m fee for each of them seriously underestimates Uncle Tony's hand playing skills.


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We're certainly in a fabulous position to be telling the vultures to do one now
 










nwgull

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It's an odd thing alright. I was in a conversation with an arsenal fan recently who seemed genuinely annoyed at ME and to a lesser extent Brighton. Because in his words 'we would have won the league with Caicedo'.

It's such an odd argument to be stuck in as you get trapped in some strange semantic, existential territory.

I was left just sort of saying 'er yeah but he plays for us. And we also needed him'.

He just couldn't grasp the idea that everyone else doesn't exist to service his preferences. So odd. Like arguing with a toddler about why it can't play with a chainsaw. You hope the inherent madness in their proposition would become apparent but it just doesn't.
Seen it loads since last summer. First it was City fans getting arsey becuase they needed a new left back and we weren't accepting their valuation for Cucurella. Arsenal fans reaction to the fact that we'd only paid about 4m for Caicedo and weren't selling for 70m was something else though. Naylor in particular got a load of abuse just for reporting facts fed to him direct from the club - ie that he was going nowhere in Jan.
 




Eeyore

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I think Calciedo and MacAllister will be our first £100m players. All this media nonsense about a £70m fee for each of them seriously underestimates Uncle Tony's hand playing skills.


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Only seven players in history have gone for £100m. A couple of those had January tax on them too.

If Albion collect £80m+ for either of those players they have done well.

Tin hat on, MAC and Moises are quality Premier League players, but they are not 'all time' players.
 


The Fits

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Jun 29, 2020
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Mac won't go for 100 because there's no reason for us to push it that high. Sometimes we get a bit greedy and a bit silly. 80 is more than a fair price for a player who deserves to take the next step in his career. Moises we can dig our heels in a bit if he's got over his January hissy fit. He is a unique player.
 


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