[Politics] Capital Punishment

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Capital punishment


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The Clamp

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Are you speaking from personal experience?

I'm always curious how views on prison life are formed by those that haven't experienced it personally. There does appear to be a fairly widespread view in this country that prison is a cushy number, whilst simultaneously believing that it's perhaps not a good idea to bend down to retrieve the soap in the showers.

Odd.

I’ve worked with prisoners in prison, some of my cases in my current job involve people that have served time and I have close relatives that have served sentences.

I have personally never served time. So it’s second hand experience. As close as I’d like to get.
 






sydney

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Jul 11, 2003
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I’ve worked with prisoners in prison, some of my cases in my current job involve people that have served time and I have close relatives that have served sentences.

I have personally never served time. So it’s second hand experience. As close as I’d like to get.

so the rope , noose or injection it is then .....unless it's a rocket launcher in the cluster....30 yrs in jail (which is another massive sort btw @ 35k + a year ) vs a rocket launcher in the cluster with the upper class willing to pay for the privelidge to watch ...$500 a head with a champagne supper and a small phial of brain matter to take home as a keep sake .

jail is a rort ....you know that ...?
 




sydney

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Jul 11, 2003
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Are you speaking from personal experience?

I'm always curious how views on prison life are formed by those that haven't experienced it personally. There does appear to be a fairly widespread view in this country that prison is a cushy number, whilst simultaneously believing that it's perhaps not a good idea to bend down to retrieve the soap in the showers.

Odd.

prison is not nice , it's a ****in nightmare , if you only go in once it is something you never forget , if you are a recidivist you are someone to be avoided.
 




Thunder Bolt

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Sadly Britain today is not one, I wouldn't put it to a referendum. Especially a legally binding one :rolleyes:

I was part of a discussion on FB where one bloke was insistent that EU countries had the death penalty because the police were armed. Even when he had it explained that only a judge can give the death penalty, and that some British police were armed, he wouldn't have it.
 


Rookie

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The options are too limited to give a reasoned answer unless that answer is a solid ‘no in any circumstances’
 


The Clamp

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so the rope , noose or injection it is then .....unless it's a rocket launcher in the cluster....30 yrs in jail (which is another massive sort btw @ 35k + a year ) vs a rocket launcher in the cluster with the upper class willing to pay for the privelidge to watch ...$500 a head with a champagne supper and a small phial of brain matter to take home as a keep sake .

jail is a rort ....you know that ...?

I think you and I have different ideas about what “sort” means.
 




The Clamp

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prison is not nice , it's a ****in nightmare , if you only go in once it is something you never forget , if you are a recidivist you are someone to be avoided.

Have you served time?
 


Mellor 3 Ward 4

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No. Too many chances of mistakes being made (Guildford 4 etc..)

BUT :

If it's a 100% safe conviction, life should mean life and put them in a 6 x 4 ft. room with no natural light and no TV, books and just enough food to keep them alive.

Make them suffer, but don't lower yourself to killing them.

Just my opinion.
 






Pavilionaire

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Jul 7, 2003
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Unlike Alan Partridge I am NOT in favour of the death penalty, not even for treason and murder.

I think that when the state takes a life it sends a message out that death can deliver justice, and this is a dangerous thing especially when a minority of people hold extreme views.

I also believe it reduces the moral authority of nations to condemn other nations for state-sanctioned killing. The USA would do the whole world a favour by introducing a federal law abolishing capital punishment.
 








A1X

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I was part of a discussion on FB where one bloke was insistent that EU countries had the death penalty because the police were armed. Even when he had it explained that only a judge can give the death penalty, and that some British police were armed, he wouldn't have it.

Woah woah woah.

Woah.

Are you trying to tell us that someone on the internet was presented with a fact based rebuttal of their opinion and STILL refused to change their views?
 


Weststander

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Incarceration for life or 40 years is more of punishment.

For that reason alone, I’m fine with no death penalty.

But I’ll add that I’m pleased Nazi/Japanese war criminals were executed. The industrialised torture, rape, experimenting on, murder of innocent people, deserved the rope. Some of these mass murderers got prison instead and were leading normal lives in West Germany by the 60’s and 70’s - disgusting. Israel did the right thing by Eichmann.
 
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Thunder Bolt

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Woah woah woah.

Woah.

Are you trying to tell us that someone on the internet was presented with a fact based rebuttal of their opinion and STILL refused to change their views?

I know. Incredible, isn't it? :lolol::lolol:
 




Danny Wilson Said

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May 2, 2020
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It’s quite simple really, I don’t believe the state has the right to take a person’s life away nor tell then what to do with their body.

No circles to be squared away far as I’m concerned. I appreciate it’s an emotive topic and many opinions will differ to mine.

So you're saying that the state doesn't have the right to take a person's life away directly but it's okay for the state give a woman the right to take her unborn child's life away?

I'm not saying that I don't agree, but I question your logic.
 


The Clamp

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So you're saying that the state doesn't have the right to take a person's life away directly but it's okay for the state give a woman the right to take her unborn child's life away?

I'm not saying that I don't agree, but I question your logic.

I don’t believe it’s the state’s place to give or take away rights over a person’s body. Up to a certain period of pregnancy it should be absolutely nothing to do with the state.
 


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