[Albion] Phil Foden and his mum involved in a punch-up

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TomandJerry

Well-known member
Oct 1, 2013
11,846
Fair play, can certainly take a punch.

Without knowing what was said to her before she pushed him, I can't give a reaction to that.

The guy with the fire extinguisher is a total weapon.

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portlock seagull

Why? Why us?
Jul 28, 2003
17,377
Natural instinct for a mum to be protective but that bloke should not have punched her, As for the bloke with the fire extinguisher up.

Is it?! Mine and my friends parents always believed the teacher, policeman, neighbour or complete and utter stranger first before ourselves!! We could only do wrong and got undeserved smacks, clip round ears, detentions etc. “You probably deserved it anyway” was my generations childhood, think it’s only Millennials who believe their kids can do no wrong and constantly leap to their defence. Maybe if Fodens mum wasn’t such a gob on a stick, with this mentality, then nothing would happened?
 








British Bulldog

The great escape
Feb 6, 2006
10,910
Don't disagree but I would have thought that he wouldn't have thrown the punch if she hadn't pushed him over.

Very much suspect alcohol was involved on both sides.

It's not like the punch was an instinct reaction to the situation? he had to get up first?
 


portlock seagull

Why? Why us?
Jul 28, 2003
17,377
Problem is that his mum made matters worse by shoving the bloke to the ground. Foden was already in the side room so she should have stayed there. So what if some drunken gobshite is giving him some abuse, he gets that every time he steps on a pitch, not nice or acceptable but he's used to it.

That said, hopefully the gobshite that threw the punch will get identified and prosecuted along with the trainee firefighter. He gets a shove and cowardly responds to a woman with an attempted haymaker. Utter scum.

I see things very differently now a days. So many women and girls are violent, attacking men under some dated chivalry code, kicking biting and punching like old nags, that I don’t blame blokes smacking them back. She who throws the first…and all that. What if that bloke had broken his arm during that fall? Is he just expected to “take that”? Fodens mum doesn’t even learn her lesson but is back for more. Besides, I think we can all confidently say this isn’t her first fight is it? All extremely embarrassing for everyone, and who starts attacking someone’s head with a fire extinguisher? Shows the level of scum and their non existing filters out there. Someone laughs at someone and it’s an instant fight to the death. What on earth makes you see such red immediately that you’re prepared to kill another human being for that? Sake, they all need locking up.
 


British Bulldog

The great escape
Feb 6, 2006
10,910
I see things very differently now a days. So many women and girls are violent, attacking men under some dated chivalry code, kicking biting and punching like old nags, that I don’t blame blokes smacking them back. She who throws the first…and all that. What if that bloke had broken his arm during that fall? Is he just expected to “take that”? Fodens mum doesn’t even learn her lesson but is back for more. Besides, I think we can all confidently say this isn’t her first fight is it? All extremely embarrassing for everyone, and who starts attacking someone’s head with a fire extinguisher? Shows the level of scum and their non existing filters out there. Someone laughs at someone and it’s an instant fight to the death. What on earth makes you see such red immediately that you’re prepared to kill another human being for that? Sake, they all need locking up.

As a bloke you can not justify punching a woman because she pushed you, well out of order.
 






drew

Drew
Oct 3, 2006
23,136
Burgess Hill
It's not like the punch was an instinct reaction to the situation? he had to get up first?

Again, I don't disagree. The bloke is scum however, Foden's mum should have shown more restraint. Without knowing what went on before, it seems what was verbal handbags turned to physical when she pushed him first.
 






BNthree

Plastic JCL
Sep 14, 2016
11,066
WeHo
Can't believe the amount of people defending the bloke for punching a woman in the face.
 


portlock seagull

Why? Why us?
Jul 28, 2003
17,377
As a bloke you can not justify punching a woman because she pushed you, well out of order.

You’ve watered it down already. She didn’t just push him. She pushed him OVER ie violently enough for the guy to fall down off the wall and onto the floor. Enough people have died that way from head injuries, so it’s not insignificant. Therefore can understand why he got up and probably instinctively (and in self defence) punched her. She’s hardly some 8 stone waif like figure either. Just one of her tits looks like it weighs that alone.
 


clapham_gull

Legacy Fan
Aug 20, 2003
25,509
Can't believe the amount of people defending the bloke for punching a woman in the face.
No defence but no defence for the original assault either.

If "push" came to "shove" I'd expect both to be charged.

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drew

Drew
Oct 3, 2006
23,136
Burgess Hill
You’ve watered it down already. She didn’t just push him. She pushed him OVER ie violently enough for the guy to fall down off the wall and onto the floor. Enough people have died that way from head injuries, so it’s not insignificant. Therefore can understand why he got up and probably instinctively (and in self defence) punched her. She’s hardly some 8 stone waif like figure either. Just one of her tits looks like it weighs that alone.

Yes, she pushed him hard and he fell over, possibly even because he might have had a few. He didn't fall flat, it was almost like the way Paul Alcock fell over when pushed by Di Canio. However, are you really claiming that punch was in self defence? That's poor. My guess is that he did what he did because he felt humiliated by being pushed over by a woman. It certainly wasn't proportionate self defence.
 




BNthree

Plastic JCL
Sep 14, 2016
11,066
WeHo
No defence but no defence for the original assault either.

If "push" came to "shove" I'd expect both to be charged.


I'm certainly not defending her for pushing the guy over but for him to punch her in the face is not a proportionate response.
 


birthofanorange

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Aug 31, 2011
6,012
David Gilmour's armpit
You’ve watered it down already. She didn’t just push him. She pushed him OVER ie violently enough for the guy to fall down off the wall and onto the floor. Enough people have died that way from head injuries, so it’s not insignificant. Therefore can understand why he got up and probably instinctively (and in self defence) punched her. She’s hardly some 8 stone waif like figure either. Just one of her tits looks like it weighs that alone.

She certainly shouldn't have pushed him over, but you can't seriously think that he picked himself from the floor, then 'instinctively' threw a punch.....and in 'self defence'?
No, he could (and should) have walked away, rather than punch a woman in the face. Classless and brutal.
 


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