I believe this is different as it is classed as a youth loan, Man Utd can recall after 28 days, can't remember where i read it.
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What do you think the deal was for Wilson?
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I believe this is different as it is classed as a youth loan, Man Utd can recall after 28 days, can't remember where i read it.
Yes, basically - the clubs have already agreed this, but MU can recall in Jan if they decide to. The fact that both clubs have gone public on it being until the end of the season means it probably will be.
Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo
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We recalled Walton on September 1st. The transfer window closed on that day, we couldn't have recalled him if we'd left it another day.
I am not saying we've got him on a 93 day loan. I am saying we've got him on an emergency loan that can last up to 93 days, we only had the option to sign him on an emergency loan deal as half season loans can only be signed during a main transfer window.
The announcement that the deal will run till the end of the season means that at some point in January it will be converted into a half season loan. If we only had him on a 1 month emergency loan then we'd have a gap over xmas where he wouldn't be available.
BensGrandad
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It is no wonder that FIFA have told the FL they must stop them
Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo
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The rules are a bit of a minefield as so many seem to conflict with what another rule states, I was under the impression that the Youth loan can only run for a maximum of 93 days like an emergency loan and that a season or half season loan didn't come under the youth rules. However you may be correct.
BensGrandad
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My own view is that there should be a transfer window from Jan 1st for 1 month and other than that an emergency loan to overcome injuries subject to permission from the league but not automatic and when granting permission the FL should require medical evidence and not just we need a goalscorer cos ours are not scoring goals.
Still think the fact MU have stated it's for the rest of the season means it will be unless they have a crisis (or their Jan signing doesn't come off).
dejavuatbtn
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Football league rule 53.3.9 implies that youth loans are a minimum of 28 days, but with no maximum (but there is a 93 day max for emergency loans).
Justice
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Hughton on talksport Friday said it happened very late in the day and Utd can recall him whenever they want. Also that cricket idiot DG tried to drag CH into the ongoing mess at Newcastle CH was having none of it and went after that only wanted to talk about the Albion.
I think it's unlikely we'll have paid a fee - that would be very unusual for a mutually beneficial loan such as this one.
In terms of wages, the club (Barber I think) have explained that such deals often involve a sliding scale depending on the playing time the loanee gets. For example, if he were starting every game and getting all the experience his parent club want, then we'd only pay a small percentage, but if he were sitting on the bench or sat out altogether, we'd have to pay more.
In terms of wages, the club (Barber I think) have explained that such deals often involve a sliding scale depending on the playing time the loanee gets. For example, if he were starting every game and getting all the experience his parent club want, then we'd only pay a small percentage, but if he were sitting on the bench or sat out altogether, we'd have to pay more.
Seagulltonian
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Well, whatever the deal for him was, he already looked right at home with his new team mates, and could and maybe should have opened his Seagulls scoring account yesterday! We'll see how good when he starts a game!
A great bit of business by the club
A great bit of business by the club
Not Andy Naylor
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CH is always being asked about Newcastle and seriously dislikes it. I'm told he lets people know in advance that he won't discuss it and if interviewers try it on anyway he can be somewhat blunt. And rightly so.
SockMonster
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I reckon we would have had to pay a fee. He was in demand. Man u would have taken advantage of that. The fee would be dependent on how long he is with us so if he's recalled obviously we pay less. I also reckon we will still go for someone in the window.
Blue Valkyrie
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Totally correct. There is basically a period in the middle of the loan, after 28 days when recall is possible, but there can be no recall after the January window shuts.
AlbionPics&SouthCoastTwit
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I assume you have paid the ticket price that Mr Bloom demanded? If yes, you have already done business with him.
Cadiz Seagull
Grey bearded old man
Norman Potting
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Should we start a "Just Giving" page so he can be bought for the Club at season end? Subject to having "Were Loose" across his shirt of course to reflect the NSC sponsorship?
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A lot goes into these loan deals, concerning premiership clubs younger players, I am sure I read somewhere that when Lingard came on loan, Manchester United examined all the clubs that wanted to take him and then the manager (Moyes at the time) takes it down to three and then had about an hour long conversation by phone with the club, before allowing the player to talk to us. So the way the club plays the training and set up all count, Bloom would love to sign these types of players but unless we go up, other premiership clubs would guzump us with their big money offers.
Albion have really worked at getting a premiership set up in place and this is a reward of all their hard work, all we need now is for the lad to feel relaxed playing for us and deliver on his potential.
Albion have really worked at getting a premiership set up in place and this is a reward of all their hard work, all we need now is for the lad to feel relaxed playing for us and deliver on his potential.
Shropshire Seagull
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Its a credit to the club that we are now regularly seen as first choice for the premiership [potential] stars of the future to come and learn / advance their trade.
My concern regarding all loans is where they do brilliantly and get us promotion, but then the gap must be filled to sustain the next division up the following season when the loan(s) have gone back.
My concern regarding all loans is where they do brilliantly and get us promotion, but then the gap must be filled to sustain the next division up the following season when the loan(s) have gone back.
GT49er
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I have absolutely no concerns about loanees doing brilliantly and helping us get promoted. The replacement of players, whether on loan or permanent, is a continual and on-going process at all football clubs, all the time.