[Football] WALES LEADS THE WAY

[rippleman]

Wales agree landmark equal pay deal

Wales' men's and women's senior players will be paid the same for representing their country for the first time.

www.bbc.co.uk

Wales has become the first country to give equal pay to men and women for representing their country.

You would like to think that England will swiftly do the same (particularly as the Lionesses have been far more successful on the global stage than their male counterparts)

 

[The Antikythera Mechanism]

Next it’ll be all age levels should be equal pay

 

[Psychobilly freakout]

Wales agree landmark equal pay deal

Wales' men's and women's senior players will be paid the same for representing their country for the first time.

www.bbc.co.uk

Wales has become the first country to give equal pay to men and women for representing their country.

You would like to think that England will swiftly do the same (particularly as the Lionesses have been far more successful on the global stage than their male counterparts)

Yeah but, no.

It is simply not the same game in terms of technique, tempo, and market forces currently.
May I be as so bold to say, there may not be that much difference between the Welsh Men's team and Women's team so therefore they feel justified offering them the same money.

 

[Simster]

Next it’ll be all age levels should be equal pay

If you say you're English these days you get thrown in jail.

 

[Springal]

The English men give all their England fees to charity and have done for a long time.

Do the Welsh men not do this ?

 

[Tim Over Whelmed]

Wales agree landmark equal pay deal

Wales' men's and women's senior players will be paid the same for representing their country for the first time.

www.bbc.co.uk

Wales has become the first country to give equal pay to men and women for representing their country.

You would like to think that England will swiftly do the same (particularly as the Lionesses have been far more successful on the global stage than their male counterparts)

I don't see the commercial argument with this decision. If Sky TV wish to pay £3.4bn to Premier League teams it seems reasonable to assume some of this will filter down to the participants in the sport at a % of the overall sum available. If the women's game has a £250m deal then surely they are entitled to the same % of the fee they attract? Fully aware I'll get "burnt" "cancelled" etc for this but can't see how you'd fund a similar payment, for players playing nationally or internationally?

 

[Psychobilly freakout]

If you say you're English these days you get thrown in jail.

Not a bad idea to be honest, at least you won't have to bother with public transport, rising cost of living and they have an in house hospital most of them now.
Always try and look on the positive side

 

[Psychobilly freakout]

The English men give all their England fees to charity and have done for a long time.

Do the Welsh men not do this ?

why should they, the Welsh are a registered charity I thought, living off the back of the English economy and tax payers money for years now.

 

[Swansman]

Wales has become the first country to give equal pay to men and women for representing their country.

Nope. As it says in the article:

"Wales join other nations such as the United States of America, England, Brazil, Australia, Norway and New Zealand in paying their players the same international match fee."

 

[Cornwallboy]

To me it should be about revenue generation, once the Lionesses start to generate the same as the men then grant equal pay. I would imagine a men's game at Wembley generates significantly more money than a women's game, so how could equal pay be justified? Likewise in terms of sponsorship / TV money / merchandise I would imagine the men's game is massively ahead in terms of generating revenue.

 

[Springal]

To me it should be about revenue generation, once the Lionesses start to generate the same as the men then grant equal pay.

they already get equal pay

 

[Questions]

I’d hate to think I was paying the wages of a woman footballer…..

Come on bring it on.
I know I will be somewhere.

 

[Beach Hut]

I thought Denmark did this a while ago

 

[Swansman]

To me it should be about revenue generation, once the Lionesses start to generate the same as the men then grant equal pay. I would imagine a men's game at Wembley generates significantly more money than a women's game, so how could equal pay be justified? Likewise in terms of sponsorship / TV money / merchandise I would imagine the men's game is massively ahead in terms of generating revenue.

As I see it, that makes sense on a club level but not on a FA level.

If FA spending would depend on revenue and how much money the entities bring to the game, then the vast majority or so of the £50m or so per year spent on grassroot football should be spent on supporting the big 6 and other big teams. Also f*** referee fees, coach education and all that sort of non-profit bollocks - money should go into the accounts of those who already have it.

Nah. I think it makes a lot of sense. If anything, the women should be paid more. To a female footballer, the money from the national team means a lot, it could be the difference between keep playing or quitting the game to pursuit a more profitable career (= pretty much any other profession, though this is changing). Meanwhile pouring another million or two on Harry Kane means absolutely nothing for him.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

I thought Denmark did this a while ago

I don't know about Denmark but the BBC article says this.
Wales join other nations such as United States of America, England, Brazil, Australia, Norway and New Zealand in paying their players the same international match fee.

 

[Beach Hut]

I don't know about Denmark but the BBC article says this.
Wales join other nations such as United States of America, England, Brazil, Australia, Norway and New Zealand in paying their players the same international match fee.

Perhaps I was confusing Denmark with Norway........

 

[Cornwallboy]

As I see it, that makes sense on a club level but not on a FA level.

If FA spending would depend on revenue and how much money the entities bring to the game, then the vast majority or so of the £50m or so per year spent on grassroot football should be spent on supporting the big 6 and other big teams. Also f*** referee fees, coach education and all that sort of non-profit bollocks - money should go into the accounts of those who already have it.

Nah. I think it makes a lot of sense. If anything, the women should be paid more. To a female footballer, the money from the national team means a lot, it could be the difference between keep playing or quitting the game to pursuit a more profitable career (= pretty much any other profession, though this is changing). Meanwhile pouring another million or two on Harry Kane means absolutely nothing for him.

Your last paragraph makes total sense and I agree about the money making a lot more difference to a female than a multi millionaire male player.

 

[Brovion]

Wales agree landmark equal pay deal

Wales' men's and women's senior players will be paid the same for representing their country for the first time.

www.bbc.co.uk

Wales has become the first country to give equal pay to men and women for representing their country.

You would like to think that England will swiftly do the same (particularly as the Lionesses have been far more successful on the global stage than their male counterparts)

I could be wrong, but don't England also pay their women internationals the same as the men? If so it's not so much 'Wales leads the way' as 'Wales catch up at last!'

(Setting myself up for a lot of egg on face if that isn't the case!)

EDIT: Yes, the article itself seems to suggest that: Wales join other nations such as United States of America, England, Brazil, Australia, Norway and New Zealand in paying their players the same international match fee.

EDIT2: @Thunder Bolt beat me to it!

 

[Thunder Bolt]

I could be wrong, but don't England also pay their women internationals the same as the men? If so it's not so much 'Wales leads the way' as 'Wales catch up at last!'

(Setting myself up for a lot of egg on face if that isn't the case!)

You're right. Post 15

 

[hart's shirt]

To me it should be about revenue generation, once the Lionesses start to generate the same as the men then grant equal pay. I would imagine a men's game at Wembley generates significantly more money than a women's game, so how could equal pay be justified? Likewise in terms of sponsorship / TV money / merchandise I would imagine the men's game is massively ahead in terms of generating revenue.

The TV deal struck with BBC and SKY in 2021 brings £8m per season into the women's game.

£6m of that is shared among WSL teams whilst the remaining £2m goes to WSL Championship teams.

So with 12 sides in the WSL, Brighton receive around £500,000.

Compare that with the Premier League's income from broadcasting deals breaking £10bn over the next 3 seasons.

https://www.sportspromedia.com/news...revenue-to-pass-uk10bn-over-next-three-years/

As far as the Lionesses go, Coventry, Bristol and Milton Keynes are hosting games in next month's 4 team Arnold Clark competition.

With double header games (England v Italy, then Korea v Belgium), the lowest ticket price at Coventry is £3.75, the highest is £11.25.

https://www.arnoldclarkcup.com/tickets/

This year they've opted for double header games as 12 months ago the non-England game attendances were 249, 119 and 877.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Arnold_Clark_Cup