Tributes to David Cameron

[GT49er]

Just picking up on one of the favourite threads on NSC at the present time, Football Banning Orders which are part of the Football Spectators Act 1989 did this derive from Brussels or was it wholly a Westminster law.

I have absolutely no idea! But as the rest of the world (and the leaders of the Tory party) seem to believe that only English fans are violent hooligans that need to be kept down, I suspect it was a Westminster law that Brussels never bothered to over-rule.

 

[Norman Baker suck my lozenge]

And you would have lost, but then if you if you already hold a biased view that is usually the outcome

Professional shysters are very accomplished at hoodwinking the electorate,look at Blair last week,you could almost feel sorry for them,pair of wankers both of em.

 

[nicko31]

Lack of class from the SNP today

 

[kevo]

What has he achieved? Absolutely nothing, except to plunge the country into a potential, and completely unncessary, economic and constitutional crisis.

History will judge him very harshly, and rightly so.

 

[GT49er]

What has he achieved? Absolutely nothing, except to plunge the country into a potential, and completely unncessary, economic and constitutional crisis.

History will judge him very harshly, and rightly so.

He will be remembered with gratitude by a majority of voters as the man who started the process of getting out of the EU. Of course, that legacy will be slightly tainted by the fact that he did it by mistake!

 

[kevo]

He will be remembered with gratitude by a majority of voters as the man who started the process of getting out of the EU. Of course, that legacy will be slightly tainted by the fact that he did it by mistake!

Majority of voters, yes - but I would suggest not the majority of the population. And a lot of those voters are now having doubts.

He wanted to remain in the EU so it was a massive blunder of cataclysmic proportions for him to call the Referendum. For that reason alone, he has failed abysmally.

 

[GT49er]

Majority of voters, yes - but I would suggest not the majority of the population.

Well, if you're going to be silly about moaning it's not a majority, try this. Only 16M (25%) of the population (65,111,143) voted to remain.

And a lot of those voters are now having doubts.

What is this thing that remainers seem to have with straws (as in clutching at), and living in a state of permanent denial?

 

[ManOfSussex]

ooo

 

[Giraffe]

Best Prime Minister of my adult lifetime.

Always made the right decisions for the country despite it not always being best for him. Did amazingly well to hold together a coalition Government which no one had managed for a long long time and then won a majority based on his competence to run the economy when everyone including the polls thought he wouldn't. And finally he gave the people the first vote on whether to stay in the EU, something that many had been calling for since the 70's. A true politician who always put the country first. I am sad he has gone, I am sad that he felt he had to go, but again it shows the manner of the man. A true British hero.

 

[Diablo]

Best Prime Minister of my adult lifetime.

Always made the right decisions for the country despite it not always being best for him. Did amazingly well to hold together a coalition Government which no one had managed for a long long time and then won a majority based on his competence to run the economy when everyone including the polls thought he wouldn't. And finally he gave the people the first vote on whether to stay in the EU, something that many had been calling for since the 70's. A true politician who always put the country first. I am sad he has gone, I am sad that he felt he had to go, but again it shows the manner of the man. A true British hero.

Also Slashed budget deficit and unemployment rate.....

 

[crookie]

Also Slashed budget deficit and unemployment rate.....

And acted decisively with the French to avoid a bloody massacre in Benghazi. Admittedly the aftermath has been disappointing, but that shouldn't detract from the initial action.

 

[kevo]

Well, if you're going to be silly about moaning it's not a majority, try this. Only 16M (25%) of the population (65,111,143) voted to remain.


What is this thing that remainers seem to have with straws (as in clutching at), and living in a state of permanent denial?

Zzzzzz. The fact is very few young people voted - if they had, we would still be in the UK. Unfortuantely the old f**kes have f**ked us over. Hold on to your seat, it's going to be a bumpy ride. I sincerely hope you don't lose your job or your house.

 

[crookie]

Zzzzzz. The fact is very few young people voted - if they had, we would still be in the UK. Unfortuantely the old f**kes have f**ked us over. Hold on to your seat, it's going to be a bumpy ride. I sincerely hope you don't lose your job or your house.

If few young people voted then those that didn't can't have really cared about the outcome, one way or the other, so who knows which way they would have voted. This referendum was hardly sprung on us, campaign seems to have gone on for years, not months !! I expect there were plenty of young people more concerned about their chances of getting a job or social housing than whether or not they would be able to work in the EU. Not everyone has the same aspirations, or education levels. I agree with you that it will be a bumpy ride though

 

[kevo]

If few young people voted then those that didn't can't have really cared about the outcome, one way or the other, so who knows which way they would have voted. This referendum was hardly sprung on us, campaign seems to have gone on for years, not months !! I expect there were plenty of young people more concerned about their chances of getting a job or social housing than whether or not they would be able to work in the EU. Not everyone has the same aspirations, or education levels. I agree with you that it will be a bumpy ride though

Young people never vote though do they? Even in elections. Probably a mixture of apathy and general disaffection with politics, etc. A shame - because it's going to affect them more than any other group in the long term.

I still feel leave voters were sold a lie. The backtracking on the £350m a week 'for the NHS', which was the main campaign message, on the morning the outcome was declared says it all.

 

[ferring seagull]

Best Prime Minister of my adult lifetime.

Always made the right decisions for the country despite it not always being best for him. Did amazingly well to hold together a coalition Government which no one had managed for a long long time and then won a majority based on his competence to run the economy when everyone including the polls thought he wouldn't. And finally he gave the people the first vote on whether to stay in the EU, something that many had been calling for since the 70's. A true politician who always put the country first. I am sad he has gone, I am sad that he felt he had to go, but again it shows the manner of the man. A true British hero.

I agree with all of that but also, importantly, he called the referendum to foreclose the decades long Conservative infighting which shackled the normal actions of government. I don't believe he called the referendum with anything other than the remote expectation that the country would actually vote (in the majority) for it and this is reflected in the lack of pre planning for the eventuality. I have to say that there should have been percentages set for success of the poll (eg a 60% majority to exit the status quo).
Despite the bile expressed on here, he will be remembered as a decent and forward looking PM and, frankly, a hard act to follow.

 

[crookie]

Young people never vote though do they? Even in elections. Probably a mixture of apathy and general disaffection with politics, etc. A shame - because it's going to affect them more than any other group in the long term.

I still feel leave voters were sold a lie. The backtracking on the £350m a week 'for the NHS', which was the main campaign message, on the morning the outcome was declared says it all.

A ridiculous claim, embarrassing I agree. Sadly this was one election where every vote counted, which is not the case usually. Sad that those who were able to exercise that choice chose not to. I remember being very excited at the age of 18 being able to vote, regardless that mine was a wasted vote as Wealden was and is a v safe Tory seat.

 

[kevo]

A ridiculous claim, embarrassing I agree. Sadly this was one election where every vote counted, which is not the case usually. Sad that those who were able to exercise that choice chose not to. I remember being very excited at the age of 18 being able to vote, regardless that mine was a wasted vote as Wealden was and is a v safe Tory seat.

My first ever vote was also a wasted one in Wealden...

 

[GT49er]

Zzzzzz. The fact is very few young people voted - if they had, we would still be in the UK. Unfortuantely the old f**kes have f**ked us over. Hold on to your seat, it's going to be a bumpy ride. I sincerely hope you don't lose your job or your house.

Zzzzzzzz ....... we ARE still in the UK. Do keep up!

 

[beorhthelm]

Zzzzzz. The fact is very few young people voted - if they had, we would still be in the UK. Unfortuantely the old f**kes have f**ked us over. Hold on to your seat, it's going to be a bumpy ride. I sincerely hope you don't lose your job or your house.

eh? so the old people have fskd us because the young didnt go out to vote? how about you lay some blame at the door of the nonchalant youth? or even just lighten up and make the best of the situation.

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

The fact is very few young people voted - if they had, we would still be in the UK.

Simply brilliant!