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[Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...



Kinky Gerbil

Im The Scatman
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Jul 16, 2003
58,023
hassocks
Writing off £4.2billion worth of furlough fraud whilst allowing energy price rises of 54%, and giving Dido Harding £37billion for track & trace makes quite a mess, especially when working people have tax rises.

There was always going to be Furlough fraud I am afraid, the way it was rushed through so quickly meant there would be and it relied on prople being trusted, Testing was a massive success our testing levels where the highest (if not among the highest) in the world, again that is not cheap -

- In the second half of 2021 it had average spending of just over £2 billion a month. In December it spent £2.8 billion - I believe you are not a fan of ending free tests?

I am sorry, what did you expect after looking down the county for two years? It to never be paid back?
 




willalbion

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May 8, 2006
1,508
London
Raise the tax on the rich, large corporations, and of course windfall tax. That's what I'd like to see but...
 


The Clamp

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Jan 11, 2016
24,705
West is BEST
Raise the tax on the rich, large corporations, and of course windfall tax. That's what I'd like to see but...

Quite. We need independent bodies enforcing tax. All the while we have billionaires deciding who pays the largest percentage of tax…it ain’t gonna be billionaires.
 


beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
35,405
There was always going to be Furlough fraud I am afraid, the way it was rushed through so quickly meant there would be and it relied on prople being trusted, Testing was a massive success our testing levels where the highest (if not among the highest) in the world, again that is not cheap -

- In the second half of 2021 it had average spending of just over £2 billion a month. In December it spent £2.8 billion - I believe you are not a fan of ending free tests?

I am sorry, what did you expect after looking down the county for two years? It to never be paid back?

funny thing is at the time people asked for less checks on furlough as it was being slow or excluding some groups. no likes fraud, especially HMRC, if they are "writing off" anything its because they know they cant prove it and dont want to spend years chasing individuals for small amounts. as you say many want free tests to continue, beggers belief anyone criticise the spending on that. i know why, two years reading tweets calling it "serco test and trace" or spent on an app, people taken in. and thats before cost of vaccines, healthcare, support services, about £370billion spent.
 


beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
35,405
Raise the tax on the rich, large corporations, and of course windfall tax. That's what I'd like to see but...

just had taxes rise, apparently unpopular. despite it affecting those earning above £34k, it gets called a tax on poor. we're also getting an increase on corporation tax back to 25%. windfall taxes are shit idea, break business models and planning, they'll get more corporation tax revenues anyway.
 
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rogersix

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Jan 18, 2014
7,917
He created? You can dislike the man ( I am not a fan) but to claim he is to blame for the mess of public finances is a bit of a stretch given the past two years.

Sunak is responsible as he is the chancellor. He's had two years to close any loopholes that he deigns are not in the spirit of the law, if Johnson disagrees, resign with integrity :shrug:
 


wellquickwoody

Many More Voting Years
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Aug 10, 2007
13,640
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Quite. We need independent bodies enforcing tax. All the while we have billionaires deciding who pays the largest percentage of tax…it ain’t gonna be billionaires.

Independent body you say? Maybe the electorate could make a stand at the next election, you know vote for who they want to govern and make taxation law?

Boris won’t be leading the Tories by then anyway, thankfully.
 


Hugo Rune

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Feb 23, 2012
21,842
Brighton
Tory meltdown incoming...

Independent body you say? Maybe the electorate could make a stand at the next election, you know vote for who they want to govern and make taxation law?

Boris won’t be leading the Tories by then anyway, thankfully.

He’d be gone by now if that was the case.

He knows that Sunak wants to put a Gove-style knife in his back so has made sure that his family tax situation was leaked. Johnson is utterly ruthless when it comes to his career. Any Tory sticking his head above the parapet will get the same treatment as the chancellor with all their skeletons being emptied from the closet.

Boris the Liar is going nowhere which is horrific for the country in the short term but possibly the opposite in the long term.
 
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Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
Btw Sajid Javid was non dom for six years until he decided to pay his ‘fair share’.

Javid was born in Rochdale so ask yourself how he chose to be nom dom. How many more are there?

Going back to Mrs Sunak and furlough money, despite being nom dom, and a green card holder, she claimed £100K for two companies which failed.
No wonder he didn’t want frauds investigated. Note, I am not saying she committed fraud.
 


Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
Independent body you say? Maybe the electorate could make a stand at the next election, you know vote for who they want to govern and make taxation law?

Boris won’t be leading the Tories by then anyway, thankfully.

Johnson has already said it will take a tank regiment to get him out of number 10. He’ll hang on as long as he can, even changing constituency borders to favour Tories.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/...-of-downing-st-johnson-tells-allies-g65c6j65b
 


vegster

Sanity Clause
May 5, 2008
27,933
Btw Sajid Javid was non dom for six years until he decided to pay his ‘fair share’.
Incredible how our leaders love to be pro UK and wear the flag and cheer all the " World Leading " endeavours we apparently achieve but seen strangely keen NOT to be all that pro UK as to pay their taxes ?
 




vegster

Sanity Clause
May 5, 2008
27,933
Apparently, Rishi Sunak has ordered an investigation in No.11 Downing St in to the leaking of his wife's Non Dom status ....I'm willing to bet that this will be concluded a lot faster the Partygate Investigation....
 


Blue Valkyrie

Not seen such Bravery!
Sep 1, 2012
32,165
Valhalla
Apparently, Rishi Sunak has ordered an investigation in No.11 Downing St in to the leaking of his wife's Non Dom status ....I'm willing to bet that this will be concluded a lot faster the Partygate Investigation....
I'm more interested in partygate, covid and Russian influence investigations.

I don't really care who actually leaked any verifiable facts about Sunak.
 






vegster

Sanity Clause
May 5, 2008
27,933
I'm more interested in partygate, covid and Russian influence investigations.

I don't really care who actually leaked any verifiable facts about Sunak.
Sorry ! It's the wrong time to actually publish or initiate investigations in to those, it's all " fluff " remember ?
 






Motogull

Todd Warrior
Sep 16, 2005
9,959
This reminds me of Nonce Andrew saying that noncery was a bit 'unbecoming'.

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Same PR outfit?
 






A1X

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Sep 1, 2017
18,283
Deepest, darkest Sussex
Such a sweeping statement and an insult to many decent citizens of this country.

And yet accurate. Sometimes people just need to accept harsh truths.
 


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