Hotchilidog
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Kemi Badenoch (somewhat miscast as the Minister for Women and Equality) then accuses Starmer of using Brianna's murder for political point scoring, simply beyond belief.
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[Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...
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I'm by no means saying SKS is perfect, but look at how he reacted after PMQs to the Tory MP who talked about his mental health issues:
Sunak walked straight out.
Sunak walked straight out.
Pevenseagull
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- Jul 20, 2003
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Bad Enoch.
I wish it was unbelievable.
Pevenseagull
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pb21
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- Apr 23, 2010
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Offering support? Just more woke lefty political point scoring while the real alpha men are getting on with the job.
Machiavelli
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He doesn't do empathy at all well, which you'd have thought was a core attribute for a politician to rise to the top of the greasy pole. He just comes across as very detached ("I don't have any working class friends") and that the PM job is all part of his career trajectory.
Machiavelli
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Friends with Shitler?
Pevenseagull
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Greedy sociopaths don't.
His chat with the homeless guy at the soup kitchen was all I needed to see. Not a clue.
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This thread is such a depressing list of what a corrupt cabal in complete breakdown keep doing whilst the fabric of the UK implodes around them.
The only highspots are the occasional forays into whataboutism by the last desperate dregs of the cabal's support. Betting odds, misogyny, but, but, but what about Starmer, wokeism etc etc ............... very brief comical interludes amongst the death throes. If only someone had warned about what would happen ..... oh
The only highspots are the occasional forays into whataboutism by the last desperate dregs of the cabal's support. Betting odds, misogyny, but, but, but what about Starmer, wokeism etc etc ............... very brief comical interludes amongst the death throes. If only someone had warned about what would happen ..... oh
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Is it PotG?
Thrifty non-licker
Chin up chap.This thread is such a depressing list of what a corrupt cabal in complete breakdown keep doing whilst the fabric of the UK implodes around them.
The only highspots are the occasional forays into whataboutism by the last desperate dregs of the cabal's support. Betting odds, misogyny, but, but, but what about Starmer, wokeism etc etc ............... very brief comical interludes amongst the death throes. If only someone had warned about what would happen ..... oh
Tubby Mondays
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Like Handcock. He was/is a personality vacuum. He shouldve been sacked for the failure to produce fake tears episode alone.
Yet Ed Miliband was vilified for looking a bit strange whilst eating a bacon sandwich.
I still cant work out all these years later why they didnt just get him a cup of tea/coffee or a glass of water.
pb21
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A mex eyecan
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that’s not worn well has it?
It's not just the lack of empathy: he can't think on his feet either. He turned up today with pre-scripted answers and looked lost when Starmer departed from his expected attack. His transphobic response was appalling but anyone with real political instinct would have shied away. Cameron wouldn't have done it, Major wouldn't have done it, Hague wouldn't have done it, I don't even think May would have done, even Johnson would have thought better of it ... but Sunak blundered right in.
The leader debates before the election are going to be a bloodbath. Sunak has no debating skills whatsoever and he's going to be up against a KC whose entire professional life revolves around thinking on his feet. And he won't have the help of a compliant Speaker either but a hard-nosed journalist who'll want to see blood. The Tories must be dreading this.
Machiavelli
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Agree with most of this. Johnson would have waded in if he sensed political advantage, and I suspect Truss would too (not that she left too many clues while PM).
While not exactly looking forward to the leader debates (if they happen), I doubt KS will inspire too many through his thinking on his feet, nor will it cause voters to switch parties -- he's just not an engaging speaker (like Blair, Hague and Johnson was/is and, to a lesser extent, Cameron too). KS is, however, doing a pretty good job at presenting himself as a 'public servant' committed to service and carving a frontier on which sits the other side.
pb21
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Aged like milk.
Won't be a bloodbath as he'll give them a swerve, like you he'll know he doesn't stand a chance.
Tubby Mondays
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Bit odd isn’t it?
They’ve pushed for making people go to court to face being sentenced (rightly or wrongly).
But won’t do the same probably/possibly/maybe.
I'm not sure I'd agree with this. The leader debates do have an impact - look at the boost it gave Nick Clegg in 2010, there was an immediate leap in the LD showing and they scored the most seats for some time. Clegg wasn't a particularly engaging speaker, but he handled himself well in the debates. And we haven't seen a leader fall apart yet but, if anyone will, I think Sunak will.
I do agree with your line "if they happen", I can see the Tories pulling out of these because they know what a disaster they'll be for Sunak. And I'm not sure swapping leaders will help - unless they pick Mordaunt - the others all look pretty hopeless. Mordaunt isn't: she's a skilled debater but she's not a members' favourite, so has no chance.
Tubby Mondays
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Yeah and Brown was rubbish in those and looked dreadful.