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Southern Rail STRIKE details
- Thread starter Ernest
- Start date
Buzzer
Languidly Clinical
- Oct 1, 2006
- 26,121
Might be worthwhile sending that one by post with a covering note.
I guess the obvious question is then if it has been ok for Thameslink since 1988 why is not ok for Southern? Again genuine questions, based on my earlier comments my preference is definitely to have a guard.
Ernest
Stupid IDIOT
clapham_gull
Legacy Fan
- Aug 20, 2003
- 25,447
Southern trains
Briiliantly random at the moment. Just waited 20 mins for a train (that's like waiting 20 mins for a tube for me)
Our train workers. What's going on with the "sickness", reimagining the role of the conductor etc..
.. And could this company organise a piss up in a brewery ?
Briiliantly random at the moment. Just waited 20 mins for a train (that's like waiting 20 mins for a tube for me)
Our train workers. What's going on with the "sickness", reimagining the role of the conductor etc..
.. And could this company organise a piss up in a brewery ?
clapham_gull
Legacy Fan
- Aug 20, 2003
- 25,447
Sorry didn't see other thread. Mods please delete I will read in ERNEST.
grummitts gloves
New member
People might say 'oh well, it's only commuters on trains' but some of those commuters have very important jobs that potentially affect other people's lives and rely on them getting to work on time. Getting effing sorted!!!
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Albion Robster
Well-known member
Sent on Twitter earlier today.
yxee
Well-known member
Well I have to hold my hands up- seems I was duped by the false announcements as well.
Service has been awful the last few weeks. They need to hire some more staff.
Will be signing this
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/113871
Service has been awful the last few weeks. They need to hire some more staff.
Will be signing this
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/113871
thedonkeycentrehalf
Retired
- Jul 7, 2003
- 8,650
Any idea of the figures for Bognor as they seem to be blaming that depot for the majority of Coastway West cancellations? Is it just as low?
I have ranted on Facebook about my SASTA experience today, but they really are a crock of shit from top to bottom.
My train 723 from RDH to VIC - Cancelled. 740 to LBG then delayed. 753 to VIC ten minutes late, arriving 20 minutes late.
And incredibly, that shockingly gash service was worse in the evening.
619 from VIC to RDH cancelled owing to staff shortages. Yes, incredible isn't it? So the next direct train was due to leave at 649. At 651 the guard announced there was a delay whilst the driver went to the LOO. We eventually left VIC at 706.
I think that just about sums up the contempt pretty much everyone in that company holds the "customer". Everyone, from the militant, rude pricks on the coal face to the incompetent nobs stealing a living from their ivory towers who can't even organise a staff rota, never mind a fleet of trains - most of which they bought despite being made of tin foil.
My train 723 from RDH to VIC - Cancelled. 740 to LBG then delayed. 753 to VIC ten minutes late, arriving 20 minutes late.
And incredibly, that shockingly gash service was worse in the evening.
619 from VIC to RDH cancelled owing to staff shortages. Yes, incredible isn't it? So the next direct train was due to leave at 649. At 651 the guard announced there was a delay whilst the driver went to the LOO. We eventually left VIC at 706.
I think that just about sums up the contempt pretty much everyone in that company holds the "customer". Everyone, from the militant, rude pricks on the coal face to the incompetent nobs stealing a living from their ivory towers who can't even organise a staff rota, never mind a fleet of trains - most of which they bought despite being made of tin foil.
SUIYHP
The King's Gull
I think I saw that post, was shown it after I made a similar rant to my friends a few days back. I made sure of demanding my refund earlier today, anything that shows my fury at the incompetence of GTR
Milano
Well-known member
Petition signed.
This morning at Balcombe where even in peak there are only 3 trains an hour - 7.26 cancelled, 7.59 cancelled, so stopped an extra train at 7.50 (arrived 7.55). There was NO WAY I could get on this train, physically impossible. Loads on the station very annoyed. I finally got to work at 9.40.
Every single day the train home is delayed by 10 or 15 minutes, EVERY DAY. This just seems to be an accepted norm now. No other 'first world' country would accept this level of constantly shit service.
This morning at Balcombe where even in peak there are only 3 trains an hour - 7.26 cancelled, 7.59 cancelled, so stopped an extra train at 7.50 (arrived 7.55). There was NO WAY I could get on this train, physically impossible. Loads on the station very annoyed. I finally got to work at 9.40.
Every single day the train home is delayed by 10 or 15 minutes, EVERY DAY. This just seems to be an accepted norm now. No other 'first world' country would accept this level of constantly shit service.
No they could not is the answer!!
Conductors now and the drivers soon to strike. They've pissed off every possible employee with their idiotic proposals based on nothing more than profit making!!
Utter disaster giving them the franchise, should be stripped from them ASAP!!!
GT49er
Well-known member
Should never have been privatised - but that genie is out of the bottle now, and won't be put back, thanks to John Major's disastrous premiership. No real 'railwaymen' any more - the privatised franchises didn't want people like that, and got rid as soon as they could. Though to be fair, British Rail had done a fair bit towards getting rid of real railwaymen before that too.
clapham_gull
Legacy Fan
- Aug 20, 2003
- 25,447
I've got to know a number is Southern up here. Ones that man the platform.The customer facing ones who take abuse in the morning. Great bunch. Take the time to know their passengers. On a few occasions I've actually been approached to tell me my train is going to be late because they remember where I am going.
That's quite something in London.
But I've come to know the crap they have to deal with. They very often genuinely don't know what it going on because the information they are given is often wrong or non existent.
You often get better information on your phone. As the company hasn't given them tablets - they rely on hoping someone is on the end of a walkie talkie or have to rush back to their office to check an email.
This leads them to being abused. Witnessed if tonight at Clapham Junction. Stepped in and corrected an irate commuter explaining that the bloke from Southern he had been rude to genuinely didn't know when the next train was coming in - he wasn't being difficult.
My experience of the staff is they are a credit to their company dealing daily with the complete disconnection of their industry - often as bemused as we are.
We treat them as if they are a single entity and should expect them sometimes to be a bit pissed off as I would be if someone came banging on my door to complain about my neighbour.
They are not the face of the railways - just the bit their badly run company carved off.
For 99% of the year they ensure millions of people get to work. A selfless often invisible task.
Southern I like your staff - I just wish you liked them a little bit more.
That's quite something in London.
But I've come to know the crap they have to deal with. They very often genuinely don't know what it going on because the information they are given is often wrong or non existent.
You often get better information on your phone. As the company hasn't given them tablets - they rely on hoping someone is on the end of a walkie talkie or have to rush back to their office to check an email.
This leads them to being abused. Witnessed if tonight at Clapham Junction. Stepped in and corrected an irate commuter explaining that the bloke from Southern he had been rude to genuinely didn't know when the next train was coming in - he wasn't being difficult.
My experience of the staff is they are a credit to their company dealing daily with the complete disconnection of their industry - often as bemused as we are.
We treat them as if they are a single entity and should expect them sometimes to be a bit pissed off as I would be if someone came banging on my door to complain about my neighbour.
They are not the face of the railways - just the bit their badly run company carved off.
For 99% of the year they ensure millions of people get to work. A selfless often invisible task.
Southern I like your staff - I just wish you liked them a little bit more.
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