So Single market - Stay or Go ?

[nicko31]

We will not have that choice.
They have to make us pay, otherwise what keeps the Dutch, the Danes, the Poles, the Austrians etc from voting out, resulting in the disintegration of the EU or the bankrupting of Germany?
The question is how vindictive they want to be, and what our reaction is.....
Our best bet is Mutti Angie and Enda Kenny reigning in the others and helping us create a deal that looks punitive on paper but in reality is no more than a small fine for our bad behaviour.

Agree, though it was them just play hard ball and don't give an inch, too much risk involved..

 

[halbpro]

Personally vote Remain, but given the result think we should leave. If that's what people want, then it's only reasonable to give it to them.

 

[marshy68]

This is true.

However, it may be trickier and costlier for Eurozone members to leave, so perhaps our deal isn't that relevant to them.

Non Eurozone members are Bulgaria, Croatia, Czech, Denmark, Hungary, Poland, Romania, and Sweden.

Only Denmark and Sweden stand out as 'leavers' from that list.

apparently the Czechs are keen to leave not sure how bothered the rest of the EU would be though?

 

[ManOfSussex]

apparently the Czechs are keen to leave not sure how bothered the rest of the EU would be though?

So it would appear - http://time.com/4391005/czexit-milos-zeman-referendum-nato-eu-czech/

If they had a referendum, knowing The Czech people I know, I think they would vote to leave.

 

[Guy Fawkes]

Everything will be up for discussion. To have a major member want to leave is a big shock to the EU, even if they are playing hardball publicly.
The UK will want access to the Single Market definitely, but with restricted movement of people up for negotiation. And I would not be surprised if they got it.

As we are the first to leave, i can't see the EU caving in on this issue. From the EU point of view, it's not going to be about us and our import / export markets but about keeping the EU together, they don't want to give any ground so that others will then be encouraged to follow our lead. The less we get, the more likely it is that we will be alone in leaving.

 

[beorhthelm]

As we are the first to leave, i can't see the EU caving in on this issue. From the EU point of view, it's not going to be about us and our import / export markets but about keeping the EU together, they don't want to give any ground so that others will then be encouraged to follow our lead. The less we get, the more likely it is that we will be alone in leaving.

politically yes, the leaders and EU institutions will publicly want to prioritise keeping the EU together. howerver there are powerful corporate lobbies, and the threat that a loss of export in a tit-for-tat trade tariff battle could tip their fragile economies into recession (they are bearly keeping above the line as it is). there is also an recognition going back some time that there is already a two speed europe, Eurozone/non-Eurozone, another two speed europe, the solvent and insolvent nations, and yet another, those interested in deep political integration and those not. so is this an opportunity to address those issues with a restructuring? essentially allow UK to lead the 2nd division with a bunch of others that arent really in for the full integration? or at least use the UK exit as a template for how to handle all those others that may need to leave or be demoted in some way so as to keep the core going forward?

 

[Stat Brother]

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