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[Albion] Should TB sack Potter?

Should TB sack GP


  • Total voters
    444


Stato

Well-known member
Dec 21, 2011
6,607
We were pacified by Barber assuring us that there would be replacement halftime entertainment. Aside from one effort by a shocking street dance troupe it never happened.

Wouldn't entertainment at half time make it more apparent that there isn't any either side of it? ???

Klopp's post match press conference. Matt Lorenzo's last question at 7:18 asked about Potter. He said that he hoped we knew what we had in Potter. Then he said that 'What is it 5 losses in a row? Eh, that's the Premier League. That can happen'* He didn't deny that we have problems, but he provided an expert view that isn't inspired by the hurt we feel, and that presumably prompted this thread.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYzsvDhCfos

Of course a comment like this is usually followed by someone posting that the manager in question has an agenda, or that it suits him for Potter to stay because he loses to Liverpool. Our EPL record against Klopp's Liverpool:

Before Potter - Played 4 lost 4, Goals for 1, Goals against 11;
Since Potter - Played 6 lost 3, Drawn 2, Won 1, Goals for 6, Goals against 10.

We're hurting. The frustration is through the roof. Let's be cleared eyed about this though. Although we might not want to admit it, that is what it will always be like for a smallish club trying to compete with giants. We have been among the relegation favourites at the beginning of every season except perhaps this one, and we have beaten the odds and stayed in the division for five seasons. Look at estimated salaries: https://www.spotrac.com/epl/payroll/

2017/18 - We were 17th in Estimated total salary budget, finished 15th
2018/19 - 17th in budget, finished 17th
2019/20 - 16th in budget, finished 15th
2020/21 - 15th in budget, finished 16th
2021/22 - 15th in budget, currently 13th

No other team has been in the bottom 6 for wages spend for every one of the last five seasons without being relegated. We have beaten the odds because our owner has a plan, because he signs personnel on and off the pitch who buy into that plan and because he generally recruits the right people. Graham Potter is very much one of the right people. This doesn't mean that there won't be periods when we struggle to get results against those who have a financial advantage over us. Potter's way of trying to beat the odds may be prettier, but it will at times be just as belief sapping as Chris Hughton's was. As Klopp says 'Eh, that's the Premier League. Anyone voting to sack him must presumably believe that there is another manager around who could solve all of the problems and not create new ones. There isn't. The problems are inherent in our situation and, despite sharing the dread that most feel whenever a home game approaches, I can't blame the players or the manager for this.

*- Even to him. Our win at Anfield last year was the first in a run of four successive EPL losses for Liverpool. That run saw them lose 6 out of 7 league games, beating only Sheffield United.
 
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twr93

New member
Aug 2, 2019
59
London
Wouldn't entertainment at half time make it more apparent that there isn't any either side of it? ???

Klopp's post match press conference. Matt Lorenzo's last question at 7:18 asked about Potter. He said that he hoped we knew what we had in Potter. Then he said that 'What is it 5 losses in a row? Eh, that's the Premier League. That can happen.' He didn't deny that we have problems, but he provided an expert view that isn't inspired by the hurt we feel, and that presumably prompted this thread.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYzsvDhCfos

Of course a comment like this is usually followed by someone posting that the manager in question has an agenda, or that it suits him for Potter to stay because he loses to Liverpool. Our EPL record against Klopp's Liverpool:

Before Potter - Played 4 lost 4, Goals for 1, Goals against 11;
Since Potter - Played 6 lost 3, Drawn 2, Won 1, Goals for 6, Goals against 10.

We're hurting. The frustration is through the roof. Let's be cleared eyed about this though. Although we might not want to admit it, that is what it will always be like for a smallish club trying to compete with giants. We have been among the relegation favourites at the beginning of every season except perhaps this one, and we have beaten the odds and stayed in the division for five seasons. Look at estimated salaries: https://www.spotrac.com/epl/payroll/

2017/18 - We were 17th in Estimated total salary budget, finished 15th
2018/19 - 17th in budget, finished 17th
2019/20 - 16th in budget, finished 15th
2020/21 - 15th in budget, finished 16th
2021/22 - 15th in budget, currently 13th

No other team has been in the bottom 6 for wages spend for every one of the last five seasons without being relegated. We have beaten the odds because our owner has a plan, because he signs personnel on and off the pitch who buy into that plan and because he generally recruits the right people. Graham Potter is very much one of the right people. This doesn't mean that there won't be periods when we struggle to get results against those who have a financial advantage over us. Potter's way of trying to beat the odds may be prettier, but it will at times be just as belief sapping as Chris Hughton's was. As Klopp says 'Eh, that's the Premier League. Anyone voting to sack him must presumably believe that there is another manager around who could solve all of the problems and not create new ones. There isn't. The problems are inherent in our situation and, despite sharing the dread that most feel whenever a home game approaches, I can't blame the players or the manager for this.

Great post, very interesting
 




Icy Gull

Back on the rollercoaster
Jul 5, 2003
72,015
I was reacting to the stupid poll
To be honest.


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Agreed, it might look stupid given the stats, however it was posted when this place APPEARED to me to be in meltdown about how shit everything about the club was from top to bottom, from what seemed to me like a fair number of fans. Not just the ones who are always waiting in the wings to slip the knife in when things go badly

I misjudged the room, sorry :shrug:
 
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Cheshire Cat

The most curious thing..
416 against
23 for

Reasonably conclusive?
 




BluesRockDJ

Well-known member
Jan 24, 2020
1,100
Might be nice to stop mocking the club's foolishness and recruitment ineptitude, and starting negative threads, then. Apologies to Stat if I am mistaking him for someone else, or his humour for something else, or his exasperation for something else.

Anyway, it's all about opinions, isn't it? ???

You seem to have a monopoly on opinions !
 


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