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[Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)
- Thread starter vegster
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School of ‘ard knocks. Mainly to the head, it would appear.
Yoda
English & European
Probably just making it look like that
Blue Valkyrie
Not seen such Bravery!
My impression is that it is being ramped up with better drones, and armoured vehicles - even including some ex soviet tanks - now being sent. Of course much more can be done.
portslade seagull
Well-known member
Hopefully that is the case, maybe now trying to keep it under the radar.
They are going to need some assistance with the ruskies now intent on taking the two regions plus more in the south
Blue Valkyrie
Not seen such Bravery!
Yes, the danger is in complacency creeping in.
There is still the Donbas battle and I am watching news about Kherson and Mykolaiv like a hawk as that opens the way to Odesa and then Moldova.
In the south the terrain is less ambush friendly. In the North once the mud goes the forests turn green hiding all the ambushes.
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vegster
Sanity Clause
- May 5, 2008
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Desperate need for those large Switchblade suicide drones and more Javelin anti tank missiles .. the Switchblades need to be used to destroy and disrupt rail and road logistics...need to stop artillery and rocket ammo getting to the front....then the UA have a chance.
Mellor 3 Ward 4
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Anyone see Guy Verhoftadt's speech? (could have been yesterday..)
Brilliant - I've no idea how to put t up on here, but everyone should see/hear it - it's on twitter.
We all (UK, USA, EU) need to stop sending Russia millions of £/$/€ every day, funding their army and it has to stop.
How can we watch the horrific pictures coming out of Ukraine and still continue to have ANY trade with them?
It appears that it's Austria, Germany and (no surprise) Hungary who are against a ban on Russian Oil/Gas. Shame on them.
Shame on them.
Brilliant - I've no idea how to put t up on here, but everyone should see/hear it - it's on twitter.
We all (UK, USA, EU) need to stop sending Russia millions of £/$/€ every day, funding their army and it has to stop.
How can we watch the horrific pictures coming out of Ukraine and still continue to have ANY trade with them?
It appears that it's Austria, Germany and (no surprise) Hungary who are against a ban on Russian Oil/Gas. Shame on them.
Shame on them.
No surprise on Hungary. Orban is Putin's EU stooge (shamefully re-elected this week too).
- Aug 7, 2003
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Mellor 3 Ward 4
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Mellor 3 Ward 4
Well-known member
Ukraine's Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba calls on Nato to make quick decisions about how best to help stop President Putin's forces.
“Either you help us now, and I’m speaking about days not weeks, or your help will come too late and many people will die, many civilians will lose their homes, many villages will be destroyed, exactly because this help came too late."
New sanctions have been agreed by the US and UK this week, but EU members are yet to agree on its latest proposals - and Kuleba wants all sanctions to go further than they have already, to include a ban on Russian oil and gas.
“Either you help us now, and I’m speaking about days not weeks, or your help will come too late and many people will die, many civilians will lose their homes, many villages will be destroyed, exactly because this help came too late."
New sanctions have been agreed by the US and UK this week, but EU members are yet to agree on its latest proposals - and Kuleba wants all sanctions to go further than they have already, to include a ban on Russian oil and gas.
Whilst I understand that Germany are hugely reliant on Russian gas (due to the mistake of not building nuclear) and that stopping Russian gas imports will lead to a recession, how bad a recession are we talking? It would have to be pretty bloody massive to justify enabling Russia to continue their war.
Albion in the north
Well-known member
For me, I would quite happily endure a recession if it meant that we screwed Putin over.
Nobby Cybergoat
Well-known member
- Jul 19, 2021
- 7,287
I feel the same, but polling booth amnesia is i'm sure as prevalent there as it is here and I can see why they are reluctant to put damage the economy during this cost of living crisis. A 3% reduction in GDP was the figure I saw for cutting off Russia, so significant. It's up to the German people now to pressure their decision makers
Do it. People are being raped, tortured, murdered, and starved to death in huge numbers. Take the recession already.
Blue Valkyrie
Not seen such Bravery!
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An application for NATO to "expand" into Finland is now imminent.
An application for NATO to "expand" into Finland is now imminent.
What merit is there in us and the USA imposing more sanctions all the time the EU is paying tens of billions of Euros into Russia which is propping up the Russian economy and keeping Putin in power?
schmunk
"Members"
Cue right-wing gonks tweeting that this whole thing has been a false-flag operation by NATO to expand its borders...
beorhthelm
A. Virgo, Football Genius
- Jul 21, 2003
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major recession. i havent seen specific forecasts, its obvious that cutting 50% of your energy is going to have a massive impact to domestic use, commerce and industry. not just energy either, gas is major feedstock for chemical industry that Germany leads in. it isnt something they can just replace, there's years of new infrastructure required to ship in replacement sources. and all the neighbours doing he same, so pressure on people and know how to build. its not something to take lightly.