Oscar Pistorius

[Footsoldier]

They are remote, yes - it would be a bit like breaking into a prison camp. There are stories where guards have been bribed, but that happens very rarely. It will be interesting to see what the defence say about it, if anything.

I love murder trials, I followed Jodi Arias trial for 5 months last year and the nutter was found guilty of first degree murder and they have a retrial in the sentencing phase Life or the death penalty starting soon.

I know there's a lot bribery about but it must be rife out where you are, I don't mean murder but more for Burglaries as that's cash and the penalties are less harsh. You could argue that Shrien Dewani hired the killers to assassinate Anni Dewani but that wasn't for money but we'll find out soon as all his legal avenues have ended so should be deported back to you within the next month.

 

[symyjym]

He's guilty. She was going to leave and he decided he'd kill her and make up this fake excuse of the burglar. He wasn't violent towards her as she could just walk out and he couldn't do nothing about it as he's got no legs to run after her. He waited till she used the toilet then shot her. It was premeditated murder.

I think you will find that you have just made up this scenario.

 

[Footsoldier]

I think you will find that you have just made up this scenario.

Not at all. He killed Reeva Steenkamp out of rage. His crying is so false and it's like all killers, trying to implement the innocent sob look and him throwing up, that made me laugh. He's trying to pull the wool over peoples eyes. Perfected.

 

[supaseagull]

Not at all. He killed Reeva Steenkamp out of rage. His crying is so false and it's like all killers, trying to implement the innocent sob look and him throwing up, that made me laugh. He's trying to pull the wool over peoples eyes. Perfected.

Wow - how come you're not in South Africa? I'm sure the prosecutors would love to know you were at the scene of the crime and knew exactly what happened!!!

 

[Footsoldier]

Wow - how come you're not in South Africa? I'm sure the prosecutors would love to know you were at the scene of the crime and knew exactly what happened!!!

She was going to leave him and his intentions were clear, if I can't have you then know one will.

 

[symyjym]

Not at all. He killed Reeva Steenkamp out of rage. His crying is so false and it's like all killers, trying to implement the innocent sob look and him throwing up, that made me laugh. He's trying to pull the wool over peoples eyes. Perfected.

I know he killed Reeva out of rage but the story that you gave is:

She was going to leave and he decided he'd kill her and make up this fake excuse of the burglar. He wasn't violent towards her as she could just walk out and he couldn't do nothing about it as he's got no legs to run after her. He waited till she used the toilet then shot her.

Firstly you assume that he made up his excuse before he shot her?

Secondly you are saying he shot her because he couldn't run after her, and waited until she used the toilet?

He is guilty as hell, but not the way you have put it.

 

[stripeyshark]

Like to add he'll be found not guilty as he's white and famous.

Yes because being white in South Africa now is a huge advantage...

 

[Questions]

He shot her. Why must we have sympathy with the man?

TIA mate TIA. That's what a couple of friends have said to me and you know what that means. Trouble is that isn't enough anymore. This time the world is watching and he has even at the very least showed scant regard for human life.

Edit: although I know things are different in ZA when you here intruders and you have access to firearms. It is just not like Britain in its outlook concerning intruders. You could think back to the Tony Martin case over here but in South Africa things are different and you could if you were bothered bring up cases like that non stop.

When I was there everyone had a weapon.......even the girls.

 

[Footsoldier]

I know he killed Reeva out of rage but the story that you gave is:

She was going to leave and he decided he'd kill her and make up this fake excuse of the burglar. He wasn't violent towards her as she could just walk out and he couldn't do nothing about it as he's got no legs to run after her. He waited till she used the toilet then shot her.

Firstly you assume that he made up his excuse before he shot her?

Yes. He planned it. This is his best bet of beating the charge. Premeditated.

Secondly you are saying he shot her because he couldn't run after her, and waited until she used the toilet?

He waited till she went to the toilet then his premeditated plan kicked in. He crawled to the toilet and shot her four time through the door, when it went quiet he then crawled back to the bedroom and put his legs on then went back to the toilet and smashed the toilet door in with a cricket bat, didn't he check to see whether or not his girlfriend was in bed while he's having this shoot out with this so called burglar lol

 

[helipilot]

Ok, fair enough. As someone who carries a gun, do you think though that his actions were reckless in the extreme?

If there was an intruder, they were in a locked toilet - they were not going anywhere. The logical course of action is call out to whoever is in there and, if they are not someone you want in the house, train your gun on the door whilst you call security - they will be there in 2 minutes.

Oh yes completely reckless. Firing through a closed door at a person you have not seen is just madness, unless as a last resort such as they were already firing at you. I'm sure they were having a fight and she ran to the bathroom and he just flipped out and everything else is just a cover up..... but we shall see!

 

[Footsoldier]

Yes because being white in South Africa now is a huge advantage...

 

[stripeyshark]

 

[KZNSeagull]

TIA mate TIA. That's what a couple of friends have said to me and you know what that means. Trouble is that isn't enough anymore. This time the world is watching and he has even at the very least showed scant regard for human life.

Edit: although I know things are different in ZA when you here intruders and you have access to firearms. It is just not like Britain in its outlook concerning intruders. You could think back to the Tony Martin case over here but in South Africa things are different and you could if you were bothered bring up cases like that non stop.

When I was there everyone had a weapon.......even the girls.

Sorry Mr Questions, Mr Thicky here. I have no idea what TIA is!!!!

I know people who carry weapons all the time. When I ask them would they use them, they say yes without hesitation, even if it means that the person who is threatening them is more likely to shoot them. It all seems bizarre to me, but then I have not been a victim of crime here. But then, neither have a lot of the people who carry weapons. They lead a rather paranoid existence and I just don't understand it.

 

[Questions]

Sorry Mr Questions, Mr Thicky here. I have no idea what TIA is!!!!

I know people who carry weapons all the time. When I ask them would they use them, they say yes without hesitation, even if it means that the person who is threatening them is more likely to shoot them. It all seems bizarre to me, but then I have not been a victim of crime here. But then, neither have a lot of the people who carry weapons. They lead a rather paranoid existence and I just don't understand it.

THIS IS AFRICA ....Normally said after some mad story has surfaced. Heard it a lot down in the Cape more than QN tbh.

I gave a great picture of a sign just as we entered the old Waterworld in Durban which stated ....' No weapons beyond this point'
I don't know if I agree if it was just paranoia though. It has and maybe still is I don't know, a dangerous place to live at times. I've been told more than once that it's not so much 'if' it happens, but more like 'when'.
I still loved it there though. Loved the people, made great friends there.

 

[John Bumlick]

What's the worst thing you can hear in a court of law if you are a defendant?

"All rise for His Honour Judge Footsoldier."

 

[One Love]

What OP is asking the judge to believe is ridiculous.

Still wouldn't be surprised if he got off though.

 

[KZNSeagull]

THIS IS AFRICA ....Normally said after some mad story has surfaced. Heard it a lot down in the Cape more than QN tbh.

I gave a great picture of a sign just as we entered the old Waterworld in Durban which stated ....' No weapons beyond this point'
I don't know if I agree if it was just paranoia though. It has and maybe still is I don't know, a dangerous place to live at times. I've been told more than once that it's not so much 'if' it happens, but more like 'when'.
I still loved it there though. Loved the people, made great friends there.

Ah. Got you now. Welcome to Africa is the version I hear most often.

 

[Billy the Fish]

Not at all. He killed Reeva Steenkamp out of rage. His crying is so false and it's like all killers, trying to implement the innocent sob look and him throwing up, that made me laugh. He's trying to pull the wool over peoples eyes. Perfected.

Wow - how come you're not in South Africa? I'm sure the prosecutors would love to know you were at the scene of the crime and knew exactly what happened!!!

She was going to leave him and his intentions were clear, if I can't have you then know one will.

Quality!

 

[Mellor 3 Ward 4]

What's the worst thing you can hear in a court of law if you are a defendant?

"All rise for His Honour Judge Footsoldier."

That made me laugh.

Fwiw IMO he's guilty.

 

[symyjym]

.........#69

Thanks for doing an awful job with the quoting system, it looks like I'm talking to myself.