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[Albion] Offside?







Hendrax

Well-known member
Jan 23, 2013
3,540
Worthing
is it also right that the lines can not occupy the same space, making the first line drawn unfair, as the 2nd will snap either in front or behind it.
 












macbeth

Dismembered
Jan 3, 2018
3,805
six feet beneath the moon...
Let's just nip some of these comments in the bud.

1) it doesn't need to be a clear and obvious error for an offside. All goals are assessed for offside, clear and obvious only applies to fouls/serious foul play.

2) the line is drawn to the shoulder which is above the elbow.

That being said: f*** this anti-football decision.
still wrong. the guidance is bottom of the armpit

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A mex eyecan

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Nov 3, 2011
3,341
Is there any reason as to why they shouldn’t use the players toe/boot as the comparison? Surely If a striker is taller than a defender then as they will naturally mostly be leaning towards the goal then the attacker will always be disadvantaged?
 






Arthritic Toe

Well-known member
Nov 25, 2005
2,402
Swindon
Looking at the above pictures. It’s very tight but it is the right decision. The line on Dunk is drawn from the shoulder (T-shirt line) which happens to be in line with his hand, but it is in the right place. The line on the defender looks correct too.

It’s a damn shame as it was a quality finish, but if you take the blue and white glasses off it is correct.
 


Mr deez

Masterchef
Jan 13, 2005
3,422
In the full picture of this image you can see that the ball is blurred away from Gross’s foot, meaning that the frame is taken AFTER the ball is struck.

An utter farce.
Very good point. It's not even slight - the ball has already moved waaaayy more than the alleged offside distance by using that picture

They've used the wrong frame. Plus that picture tells you all you need to know when people claim the VAR offside rulings are accurate - they can never be with this technology.
 




Mr deez

Masterchef
Jan 13, 2005
3,422
Looking at the above pictures. It’s very tight but it is the right decision. The line on Dunk is drawn from the shoulder (T-shirt line) which happens to be in line with his hand, but it is in the right place. The line on the defender looks correct too.

It’s a damn shame as it was a quality finish, but if you take the blue and white glasses off it is correct.
Looking at the above pictures. It’s very tight but it is the right decision. The line on Dunk is drawn from the shoulder (T-shirt line) which happens to be in line with his hand, but it is in the right place. The line on the defender looks correct too.

It’s a damn shame as it was a quality finish, but if you take the blue and white glasses off it is correct.
Maybe If you agree that image is from when the kick was taken.
 


Baldseagull

Well-known member
Jan 26, 2012
10,993
Crawley
Looking at the above pictures. It’s very tight but it is the right decision. The line on Dunk is drawn from the shoulder (T-shirt line) which happens to be in line with his hand, but it is in the right place. The line on the defender looks correct too.

It’s a damn shame as it was a quality finish, but if you take the blue and white glasses off it is correct.
Do you think the line across the pitch for Tarkowski is in the right place, i.e. is it drawn where the ground would be directly in front of him, in your untinted view?
 


Badger

NOT the Honey Badger
NSC Patron
May 8, 2007
12,817
Toronto
How can they determine exactly where the line across the pitch should be? I assume there is some other technology to work it out and it isn't just done by eye? It's not possible to know on a 2D image exactly how far down from the player the line needs to be drawn.
 




Arthritic Toe

Well-known member
Nov 25, 2005
2,402
Swindon
Do you think the line across the pitch for Tarkowski is in the right place, i.e. is it drawn where the ground would be directly in front of him, in your untinted view?
Yes the line is taken vertically down from his shoulder to the pitch and the line drawn at that point. Obviously this all assumes that the picture is taken from the frame the ball is kicked, but I think we have to trust the technology on that.

I wanted it to be a goal as much as anyone, but wanting doesn’t change the facts.
 


CaptainDaveUK

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Oct 18, 2010
1,509
I would happily see these lines done away with and allow VAR officials to simply watch the footage, looks like they’ve possibly made another mistake which is extremely disappointing.
 


macbeth

Dismembered
Jan 3, 2018
3,805
six feet beneath the moon...
Looking at the above pictures. It’s very tight but it is the right decision. The line on Dunk is drawn from the shoulder (T-shirt line) which happens to be in line with his hand, but it is in the right place. The line on the defender looks correct too.

It’s a damn shame as it was a quality finish, but if you take the blue and white glasses off it is correct.
but none of the images are taken from the correct kicking point. you can literally see the ball moving. therefore it cannot be accurate. it may have still been offside had they pinpointed the right kicking moment. but that’s not what happened
 








Cheshire Cat

The most curious thing..
Referee said it was offside, therefore it was offside.

Football isn't a democracy.
 


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