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Geriatric Seagull

New member
Nov 10, 2009
979
Littlehampton
The referee was poor throughout the game. He allowed himself to be influenced by players on both sides, missed some blatant of fences but failed to spot others. His assistants were equally poor. Once upon a time a good referee would take up a position near the main attacker/central defender so that he could spot climbing, backing in and pushing. Today's inept clown was apparently too unfit to do that. However, Greer was his own worst enemy. Both of his cards, whilst the second was a bit petty, were justified. He knew what he'd done and couldn't get out of the way quickly enough. For those who say it wasn't, just ask what your reaction would have been if it had been a Reading player. As captain he should show more responsibility.
 




tigertim68

Well-known member
Sep 3, 2012
2,605
well i am.
believe it or not there is a clue in the username.

i look at the game from a referee's point of view, without going to a game as a bhafc supporter expecting every decision to go to my chosen team.

it is a bloody hard job, i have been doing it 13 years and is a thankless task.

today, he got the big decisions correct and did not affect the result of the game.

if you are looking for a scapegoat try our captain, but we cant criticise our own.

contact me, i will point you in the direction of a course.

you too like me can train 5 days a week
do 4 games a week
travel to rye for £30 on a Tuesday night
attend 6 meeting a month
pass yearly fitness test, 12600 meters in 12 minutes
mentor schemes and assessments

it would give you far more of an idea about refereeing and change your opinion about football

I would say i am a fair better judge on a referee's performance, than your regular supporter who watches 90 minutes - 23 times a season after a few beers in my belly

I played football for over 20 years at a good level , i have been watching football for over 40 years so i also know a bit about the game , i dont drink before the game either , with all this training you do its a shame you know nothing about the game . if you think Greers sending off did not affect the result you are wrong .
the ref was weak , he got a lot wrong , like most refs you never thihk your are wrong !
 


British Bulldog

The great escape
Feb 6, 2006
10,972
well i am.
believe it or not there is a clue in the username.

i look at the game from a referee's point of view, without going to a game as a bhafc supporter expecting every decision to go to my chosen team.

it is a bloody hard job, i have been doing it 13 years and is a thankless task.

today, he got the big decisions correct and did not affect the result of the game.

if you are looking for a scapegoat try our captain, but we cant criticise our own.

contact me, i will point you in the direction of a course.

you too like me can train 5 days a week
do 4 games a week
travel to rye for £30 on a Tuesday night
attend 6 meeting a month
pass yearly fitness test, 12600 meters in 12 minutes
mentor schemes and assessments

it would give you far more of an idea about refereeing and change your opinion about football

I would say i am a fair better judge on a referee's performance, than your regular supporter who watches 90 minutes - 23 times a season after a few beers in my belly

The fact your a ref doesn't make you right on everything it just makes you biased towards todays ref as he's one of your own.
 


bn1&bn3 Albion

Well-known member
Jan 15, 2011
5,625
Portslade
Greer sending off looked soft, but I was in the North, so I'll wait until I've seen a reply before a make a full judgement. The thing that annoyed me the most was when Greer went in, their centre back, who was practically on the 18 yard box sprinted all the way over to demand the yellow card. That should be a bookable offence..
 


dazzer6666

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Mar 27, 2013
55,208
Burgess Hill
well i am.
believe it or not there is a clue in the username.

i look at the game from a referee's point of view, without going to a game as a bhafc supporter expecting every decision to go to my chosen team.

it is a bloody hard job, i have been doing it 13 years and is a thankless task.

today, he got the big decisions correct and did not affect the result of the game.

if you are looking for a scapegoat try our captain, but we cant criticise our own.

contact me, i will point you in the direction of a course.

you too like me can train 5 days a week
do 4 games a week
travel to rye for £30 on a Tuesday night
attend 6 meeting a month
pass yearly fitness test, 12600 meters in 12 minutes
mentor schemes and assessments

it would give you far more of an idea about refereeing and change your opinion about football

I would say i am a fair better judge on a referee's performance, than your regular supporter who watches 90 minutes - 23 times a season after a few beers in my belly

Respect. 12600m in 12 minutes. Anyone who can run faster than a cheetah is wasted as a ref - Bekele's best (the world record) is 26 mins odd, so you'd lap him about a dozen times on a normal track.

More seriously, couldn't fully see Greers 2nd yellow from WSL so difficult to comment, but it cost us a couple of points I reckon. OG seemed unable to get us organised with 10 (against a team that couldn't beat 8 last week). The Solly corner decision was spot on - no-one else touched the ball.
 






kevo

Well-known member
Mar 8, 2008
9,750
You can tell whether the players rate a ref by whether he is influenced or not. Greer's 2nd challenge was never a yellow and wasn't going to be until the Reading players were up in arms. Then players from both sides started diving all over the place conning the ref. I was in line with the lino in the first half and he gave at least two incorrect offsides against Lingard alone.

One of those offsides was an absolute joke - it was a brilliant pass too. The lino must have been the only person in the stadium who thought it was offside.
 


BN9 BHA

DOCKERS
NSC Patron
Jul 14, 2013
22,525
Newhaven
disagree

easy to blame the officials.

i blame our skipper.
what a stupid challenge to make on the 55th minute when already cautioned.
He knew what he had done, he knew he was walking that's why he got away from the scene asap.

6 minutes added on?
6 subs, 1 goal = 3.5min
id say you could easily find 2.5 minutes from injures, time wasting and the length of time it took for the red to happen.

big decision correct,
little fouls, pushes etc are always open to interpretation and he had more than his fair share to judge today. both teams didn't help.

offside's looked good to me, its amazing to know how many people still do not know if you are in an offside position, balls played forward and you step back in to your own half to receive the ball, its offside - eg ulloa


and what do we think about solly's corner, why did the ref give a free kick - it never went out of play
hmmmmmmmmmmmm useless &&&&

in the laws of the game, which obviously a lot of people know well, you are not allowed to play the ball twice from a corner, or throw in.
or its an indirect free kick

but everyone knew that

Refs always stick up for refs which is what you are doing here, did you watch the football or the ref?
I pay money to watch the football not the ref, another match ruined by crap officials.
 




Chicken Runner61

We stand where we want!
May 20, 2007
4,609
One of those offsides was an absolute joke - it was a brilliant pass too. The lino must have been the only person in the stadium who thought it was offside.

Was that the one where he came back in to play from an offside position? - Its not just when you get the ball, you can be offside if you become involved from an offside position which I think this was
 




Not Andy Naylor

Well-known member
Dec 12, 2007
8,975
Seven Dials
However his first yellow was a straight red.

I must say that I thought that - from the angle I had (press box) it looked as if he was the last man, but I presumed it was far enough from goal for the ref to give him the benefit of the doubt. And Greer had originally lost possession with a poor pass.
 




One Love

Well-known member
Aug 22, 2011
4,480
Brighton
I must say that I thought that - from the angle I had (press box) it looked as if he was the last man, but I presumed it was far enough from goal for the ref to give him the benefit of the doubt. And Greer had originally lost possession with a poor pass.

To be fair to the ref he really took his time over both yellow card decisions. I reckon the first one was nearly a red so when he contemplated the second he remembered the first one and thought he'd done enough to walk.
 


BensGrandad

New member
Jul 13, 2003
72,015
Haywards Heath
If anybody had looked on soccerbase at his record so far this season they would have known what to expect. His record before today was 80 yellow snd 1 red for 2 yellows, I think that is in 23 games so 3 - 4 yellows each game.. I was always taught that good refs dont need to issue cards to be efffective and respected.
 


pb21

Well-known member
Apr 23, 2010
6,659
Imo the ref was sound until the linesman, who was out of his depth the whole match, went mental for the second greeer challenge. After that he lost the plot!
 




surlyseagull

Well-known member
Aug 23, 2008
847
You Sir briref are an extremely condescending individual with your posts,and if you think that because you are a ref then that gives you carte blanche to rubbish any other opinion and you have to be right then I would be very concerned if you officiated any match I played in or watched .I admit you may be right on a fair few issues but not on all ,so it may be advisable to not talk about fans and fellow posters as if they are some kind of simple fools with no knowledge of the game just because you don a black strip and whistle.
 


Tony Towner's Fridge

Well-known member
Aug 22, 2003
5,537
GLASGOW,SCOTLAND,UK
Adkins has always set his teams up to dive and fall about the place, remember the Div 1 games against them Scummers?
He is by far wand away my most loathed manager, the creep that he is.

As for Reading, always were and always will be a small place somewhere down the M4 that has a one way system to ensure you don't escape it. Because otherwise no on would stay. It is like Berkshire's Guantamino!

TNBA

TTF
 


studio150

Well-known member
Jul 30, 2011
30,178
On the Border
The problem with Greer was the first yellow card. He was on the ball with plenty of time to pick out another Albion player and passed it straight to a Reading player, then left with no option really other than to bring the player down. If he had kept the ball, no yellow.

The second one, was a foul, but believe the ref did himself no favours by taking his time to bring out the yellow, thereby giving a clear impression that the card was only produced as a reaction to the 'injury' suffered by the Reading player.

Of course everyone could see that the Reading player immediately was able to jump up once the yellow and red were produced.

Overall I think the ref was poor and failed to give clear free kicks to both sides, and seemed to produce the yellow for diving to the reading player on the one occasion when he actually seemed to slip, rather than dive,

Still intersting for Tuesday on who will be captain assuming Calderon is again on the bench, assume Upson who was again faultless today.
 


LamieRobertson

Not awoke
Feb 3, 2008
48,229
SHOREHAM BY SEA
the problem with greer was the first yellow card. He was on the ball with plenty of time to pick out another albion player and passed it straight to a reading player, then left with no option really other than to bring the player down. If he had kept the ball, no yellow.

The second one, was a foul, but believe the ref did himself no favours by taking his time to bring out the yellow, thereby giving a clear impression that the card was only produced as a reaction to the 'injury' suffered by the reading player.

of course everyone could see that the reading player immediately was able to jump up once the yellow and red were produced.

overall i think the ref was poor and failed to give clear free kicks to both sides, and seemed to produce the yellow for diving to the reading player on the one occasion when he actually seemed to slip, rather than dive,

still intersting for tuesday on who will be captain assuming calderon is again on the bench, assume upson who was again faultless today.

this
 




Phat Baz 68

Get a ****ing life mate !
Apr 16, 2011
5,026
most sensible post of 2014?



Even if we had won 7-0 the referee and his two idiot assistants were at very best, totally incompetent and inconsistent with over 80% of their decisions today.
It's not a case of blaming him for us drawing or not winning, it's simply his complete inability to run a game of football at this level and also not be swayed by literal bullying by the opposition.
Shocking absolutely shocking, one of the worst displays by an official and his assistants for a long time.
Even if we had lost at home today but the referee had put in a good professional display I wouldn't like the loss as no Albion fan would,
but I would have gone home knowing he had done properly,
what he is paid thousands to do.
 


Quinney

Well-known member
Aug 3, 2009
3,658
Hastings
Not heard much about our disallowed goal. Looked like we had messed it up, but it ended up in the back of the net and from where I was sitting didn't look off side.
 


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