March for England 2014

[Simster]

hahahaha
Gimpster and a ex short service guardsman...

Gimpster..which point concerning the MFE am I missing?

You're constantly being outflanked and transparently attempting to change the conversation. You're an intellectual lightweight. It's embarrassing to read [MENTION=12825]cunning fergus[/MENTION] run rings round you I'm afraid.

 

[daveinprague]

Yeah..facinating... what point am I missing about the MFE?


...and ive just pointed out to cunning, that he is talking about something completely different...not sure how that is 'running rings'....

Maybe you can tell me...why is it wrong to object to violent racist fascists, coming to Brighton to commit violent acts.


and what the **** does it have to do with muslims exactly?

 

[LA1972]

Tolerance of extremists is cowardice, that's ALL extremists, Right, Left, Muslim, NSC post whores, ect...

 

[cunning fergus]

That is such a red herring. Mohammed is the only islamic first name in the top 100 boys names for 2012. It appears in three forms making a total of 7139 children and it makes up just 3.5% of the 200K odd births those top 100 names account for. The top ten boys names listed are Harry, Oliver, Jack, Charlie, Jacob, Thomas, Alfie, Riley , William and James, all traditional British names and together representing 55k children. The story of the top 100 is not one of a creeping islamisation of childhood, but of a curious absense of "ethnic" names in the data.

You can find the data for yourself here. http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/publications/re-reference-tables.html?edition=tcm:77-318071

Nope, its the most popular boys name in London (as I stated in my email), and turns out 2nd overall..............

http://www.themuslimtimes.org/2013/...muhammad-is-now-second-most-popular-boys-name

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23663337

 

[pastafarian]

Maybe you can tell me...why is it wrong to object to violent racist fascists, coming to Brighton to commit violent acts.

nothing wrong with objecting to it at all.

there are different ways of objecting though.

behaving like violent fascists to stop violent racist fascists seems a bit dim.

 

[cunning fergus]

Actually Cunning...it was your good self...
'Today this country is currently dealing with new challenges, like female genital mutilation, honour killings, forced marriages, sharia courts, and Islamic schools.
The capital on the last census was 45% White British and the favourite boys name is Mohommed (in its various forms).'


But thats not the point... because of one issue in the UK, im supposed to ignore another issue?...

Are there any muslims bringing violent marches to Brighton? No... Are British fascists bringing violent marches to Brighton? Yes.

Im told repeatedly by right wingers on NSC, that the far right is rising all over Europe....but apparently not here, whenever this thread pops up ..how is that?
They are here, however, currently they are very fragmented...
I will continue to confront British fascists when they are marching, and im in the vicinity...I will continue to despite muslim fundamentalists......im not going to ignore one for the other.

To be fair though the challenges I highlighted in that particular post are certainly not the preserve of our small benign population of Muslims..........that was not my point. Given the very significant change that has occurred in the UK in the last 20 years or so, if the right wing backlash is 150 working class type publicly projecting their own sense of unsavory patriotism then I think that's not bad. Let them totter about for a couple of hours un-acosted and undoubtedly all will be well.

You are right about the Muslim marches of course, but then I will raise your violent MFE marches with the fact that no-one has been beheaded or lost their limbs following a MFE event. Feel free to enlighten me.

In any event be honest.........the MFE is not a fascist movement anyway, its not even a movement. It has no momentum amongst the wider UK public and is not the start of anything sinister.

Europe is a different matter though, and recently Hungary and Greece have elected representatives from openly fascist political parties.

Given your internationalist disposition and utter contempt for fascism I dont understand why you continue to pick on our own insiped gormless nationalist types instead of getting stuck in to the real deal on the cobbles down in Hungary. Budapest is not that far away (Brighton - Manchester), and its not expensive to get there.

http://czech-transport.com/index.php?id=402

I mean look at this lot, they wont be hard to spot will they..................

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...where-Hungarian-Jews-fear-for-the-future.html

Good luck and let us know how you get on.

 

[cunning fergus]

Did you know that 85% of the prison population is non-Muslim? We'd better start marching against all the English people who may or may not be criminals! To arms!

Of course I can do fractions.............that was not the point though. A 15% prison population from a timy 5% UK population is impressive................I wonder why the rate is so high?

Do you think they just commit comparitively more crimes when compared to the general population or are there some specialisms? Its a poser isnt it?

 

[The Merry Prankster]

Tolerance of extremists is cowardice, that's ALL extremists, Right, Left, Muslim, NSC post whores, ect...

No, it's tolerance or democracy or freedom of speech or living in a liberal country. It takes courage

 

[daveinprague]

Cunning.....you ask me why....its the place i consider my hometown..its where I grew up from the age of 12, its where I will return.
Yes, fascism in Europe is on the rise. Even here, where its mostly directed towards the Roma...
My point is...yes, im left wing...but my point is, and has been all the way through this thread... no fascist marches in Brighton, particularly, when they are making it obvious, they are coming to cause Brighton problemms..not commies, not muslims...Brighton...because Brighton doesnt belong in their world....Why has this Portsmouth led group marching in Brighton.
Why not Portsmouth? Why not Whitehall?
For people to claim its just UAF opposing thle is Bizarre. Im not even UAF..
Anywy..bit pissed...night night..


oh,, and in 2007 the Hungarian 'Iron guard' came to Prague.. and yes, I was there...yes..they were run out of the city..not just by Antifa, but also grannies, and granddads, and families...some scattered violence, and a couple of gunshots, but mostly, sheer weight of numbers forcing these feckers out of the city...

 

[daveinprague]

nothing wrong with objecting to it at all.

there are different ways of objecting though.

behaving like violent fascists to stop violent racist fascists seems a bit dim.

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My point is, if they are advertising the fact they intend to bring violence, then the march shouldnt be allowed anyway.
Why does the city have to accept it? Ive said all along..no violent racist, fascist group. No violent left wing opposition...which funnily enough, anti left wing violence people on here, seem to think, that I should be involved in violent disorder with these ****wits..haha

 

[The Spanish]

I REST MY CASE...the guy has an iq of about 26......thick yorkshire cant , oh the irony that they choose to have their march in Sussex where there is a very small immigrant population,i still think they should be given their right to march otherwise you muddy the waters of what is worth tolerating and what isn't......sussex has a massive pensioner population...most of whom find gays offensive.......how can we be so choosy with our tollerance.....

hahahahahahaha Lancashire.

The lads a doughnut but its quite funny you have twice placed him in the wrong county, while laughing at him for being ill informed and not very worldly. and you can't tell what side of the pennines he is from.

 

[The Truth]

hahahahahahaha Lancashire.

The lads a doughnut but its quite funny you have twice placed him in the wrong county, while laughing at him for being ill informed and not very worldly. and you can't tell what side of the pennines he is from.

North east Cheshire actually.

 

[The Spanish]

North east Cheshire actually.

haha there you go. just shows how easy it is to not be as worldly as we see ourselves eh. we are all a bit parochial and not as clued up as we like to think I suppose.

the irony of us inadvertently highlighting it while mocking someone for being confused about different cultures, shows us all up. well not you The Truth, you were smart bomb accurate.

 

[The Truth]

well not you The Truth, you were smart bomb accurate.

Please. You're not the first to say that.

 

[sydney]

hahahahahahaha Lancashire.

The lads a doughnut but its quite funny you have twice placed him in the wrong county, while laughing at him for being ill informed and not very worldly. and you can't tell what side of the pennines he is from.

he sounds like he's from Yorkshire to me.....i didn't hear it mentioned in the vid or elsewhere that he was from Burnley , Bury , Rochdale , Bradford , Leeds or Bingley so excuse me signor for offering myself up as sacrifice to the superiority brigade.....strewth...!!

 

[Tom Bombadil]

Nope, its the most popular boys name in London (as I stated in my email), and turns out 2nd overall..............

http://www.themuslimtimes.org/2013/...muhammad-is-now-second-most-popular-boys-name

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23663337

What email? and why are you linking to a bbc story that's based on the data link I provided. It doesnt change the fact that people like you trot out the Mohammed boys name statistic as if it is some sort of proof of a creeping fundamentalist takeover when the data seems to be saying something else.

 

[Taybha]

So glad i joined MUF now , nobody gives a shit when we are in town .

 

[Hotchilidog]

What email? and why are you linking to a bbc story that's based on the data link I provided. It doesnt change the fact that people like you trot out the Mohammed boys name statistic as if it is some sort of proof of a creeping fundamentalist takeover when the data seems to be saying something else.

I think we need to be concerned about the rise of Kayden as a popular name (as referenced in the BBC link). Obviously some pop culture reference I am way too old to appreciate.

 

[daveinprague]

Still waiting for answer from Gimpster...he likes grand-standing with pompous posts, but ask him a direct question, and the turnip gets shy.

Gimpster...tell me what point im missing regarding MFE...ie..what the thread is about?

 

[sydney]

here we go the binfest is ruminating.....were the jakers is PPF...?