[Politics] Joe Biden vs Donald Trump *** Official Match Thread ***

[nicko31]

Looks Biden has Wisconsin

 

[Weststander]

Interesting US stock markets are all up strongly pricing in a clear result. FB up 8% so much for them being scared of Democrat regulation

The hatred from Trump towards social media over Biden, might’ve meant spiteful use of legislation or executive orders against such platforms. Even today they’re having to act to block fake news Trump victory propaganda.

 

[bhafc99]

It's better than that. Apparently he had a massive hissy fit last night when the votes started coming in, and that's what caused his overblown speech at about 05.30GMT. The loser.

It was when Fox News stunned everyone by calling Arizona for Biden, ahead of the AP or anyone else. Trump allegedly went absolutely thermonuclear at that.


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[Papa Lazarou]

She is an absolute nutjob.

She is almost clinical in her analysis of issues, plus she's quite feisty.

 

[brightn'ove]

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Whether you believe it or not, this won't be over anytime soon.

both trump & biden have vertical lines on that chart, it's when they started to add the results of postal ballots. However the site is updated obviously does it by party, and somebody has managed to grab a screenshot between it adding dem votes & rep votes.

****ING hate this shit of people trying to find fraud where there is none what so ever.

 

[Dick Swiveller]

Looking like the absolute worst outcome for the US as a country taking politics out of it. A narrow win for Biden will not end well. Spence's much vaunted red landsilde would at least have given them certainty. If the narrow win is upheld, the same lunatics that tried to kidnap a Governor or force the Biden coach off the road will go bezerk. Have it taken away from him in the courts by Trump appointees and the militant Antifa will do likewise.

The US can never lord it over any other country about their election procedures after these shenanigans. The incumbent outright lying about mass fraud when he is actually trying to suppress legitimate votes is the stuff of dictators.

 

[LlcoolJ]

Well, I think I’m a centrist, so what does that prove?

Again, you demonstrate signs of delusion and inferiority. You constantly need to throw insults as a way of making out that you are right. I pointed out something which I’d seen, and it triggered the typical left-wing/liberal response. I thought it was a reasonable question being asked.

If this had happened to the republican vote and not democrat, you would be throwing your usual hissy fit. But when it’s the other way, you get all precious and assume that ‘your team’ can’t do wrong.

Personally, I think Trump is a **** with serious character failings, but I think the vote needs to be seen to be clean and fair.

Anyway - I won’t reply to you again. You’re really not worth the time.

I'm so disappointed.

 

[brightn'ove]

130 thousand votes dropped in an instant with no reply (not even a solitary vote) for any other candidate doesn't raise either of your eyebrows then?

think about it critically you plum. they would update the figures by each party, whoever got that screen grab got it before they updated the republican numbers. these are not official ONE by ONE numbers, they are a third party reporting the information released to them.

 

[Fitzcarraldo]

Biden is gon get dicked.

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Whether you believe it or not, this won't be over anytime soon.

Your man lost. Get over it.

 

[bhafc99]

Wisconsin goes to Biden by 20,000+ votes apparently.


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[nicko31]

Finally, this whole Trump Brexit trade deal is a bit of a non-starter. Biden might say there won't be a deal with the UK, but you can bet that if there IS one with Trump, he will make sure we are royally shafted. He'll see us (quite rightly, you could argue) as there for the taking.

Whatever happens – and whoever is in charge – all we can hope for is that the next four years will be better than the last.

A US trade deal won't save our bacon, nice trade surplus as we are. Any gain for a trade deal will be negligible net gain for us, just look at UK govs own figures

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Trump has mocked veterans and the disabled, refused to point blank condemn a racist murder by Alt Right. They aren’t what Farage would blare “FAKE NEWS”. We saw Trump live doing these things.

What is my ideology?

In the past I was pro Reagan (no regrets), and centre right UK governments when I felt it was right or the least worst option, although a Remainer I’ve always said that begrudgingly I accept the result. Also voting for Blair in 97 and later Lucas.

Like most people my ideology is a mix of views. Very anti Trump due to his bullying and belittling personality, oil and gas over climate change, devoid of empathy and policies to help the poor get decent healthcare.

Another plus for Biden, is that he backed Britain when we went to the Falklands in 82, when Reagan wouldn't.

 

[father_and_son]

Looking like the absolute worst outcome for the US as a country taking politics out of it. A narrow win for Biden will not end well. Spence's much vaunted red landsilde would at least have given them certainty. If the narrow win is upheld, the same lunatics that tried to kidnap a Governor or force the Biden coach off the road will go bezerk. Have it taken away from him in the courts by Trump appointees and the militant Antifa will do likewise.

The US can never lord it over any other country about their election procedures after these shenanigans. The incumbent outright lying about mass fraud when he is actually trying to suppress legitimate votes is the stuff of dictators.

This. An all or nothing electoral college system is just plain stupid and consistently generates undemocratic results (winner rarely has most votes in recent presidential elections).

It's a crap democracy that just got so much worse because of a single flawed individual.

 

[Weststander]

Dickheads who wrongly celebrated:

 

[Goldstone1976]

Very good point.

For clarification, 'win' refers to the candidate who still has their finger on the nuclear button on Wednesday, January 20, 2021.

Thank you; my friend is grateful.

He says 'In that case, f*** knows'.

 

[nicko31]

Dickheads who wrongly celebrated:

Last one wins by a mile

 

[Machiavelli]

AOC please...

Whenever I see her, I often find myself saying AOC please

 

[Eeyore]

I'm not convinced Biden will win Arizona.

 

[Weststander]

AOC please...

She’s stunning. Forget about the politics.

 

[Weststander]

I'm not convinced Biden will win Arizona.

You can multiply your stake by 3.5 on Betfair if you follow the intuition that Trump will win.