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[Film] James Bond: No Time To Die - Official Trailer



southstandandy

WEST STAND ANDY
Jul 9, 2003
5,667
Decent film - hard to maintain the pace after such a frenetic start. Ending was slightly unoriginal set on the bad guys island, but still pretty fun overall. 4 out of 5 for me.

The bad guys are right up there with Storm Troopers as being completely lousy shots. Wouldn't want any of them in my army!

Who will take over Craigs mantel as the next Bond?

Henry Cavill?
 






Daffy Duck

Stop bloody moaning!
Nov 7, 2009
3,824
GOSBTS
Tom Hardy doesn't do films for the paycheque.
I think if he was offered the part he would do it and not demand huge money (unlike a certain DC).
 










Swansman

Pro-peace
May 13, 2019
22,320
Sweden
Saw it last night.

Got disappointed.

Main issues:

Unlike the old movies, the Craig movies are all linked. But there seems to have been pretty much no planning in how or why they are linked, and its all very "we make it up as we go".

James Bond being lost for years without anyone knowing where he is for the second time in five movies.
James Bond accidently discovering some massive criminal organisation for the second time in five movies.
James Bond trying to leave his job because he is in love with some woman for the second time in five movies.
Just stupid.

The presence of kids. Children are not supposed to be in a James Bond movie. Here they are used as a tool to make it more "emotional", and its incredibly cheap. Its like when you read a good novel and somewhere along the line the author decides to bring in some previously unknown relative to make it all sad and shit, but its just dumb... and shit.

James Bond contemplating on who and what he is for the umpteenth time. He is no longer James Bond. He is some bloke running around with the self-doubt and identity crisis of a teenage girl growing up in Instagram feeds. How about just allowing him to be James Bond and do things that James Bond do. How about just making a classic James Bond movie in this endless row of "here's another depressed, introvert superhero, how you like that twist huh huh?" movies.

I'm glad to see Daniel Craigs Bond finally done. His version of Bond is some kind of outcast frightened of himself and everyone and everything who isnt some kind of gun or bomb. It was fun to begin with and now its old.

Also the villain who I cant even remember the name of... Remi Marko? Remi Malko? Something. I might get the answers if I see this again but... What does he want?

Audio-visually the movie is fantastic, the cast is great and there are some great scenes but this trying-very-hard-to-be-emotional action-drama is all a bit silly and done and none-Bond. Linus Sandgrens photo is great, Hans Zimmers music is way above what we've heard in recent films, too bad they had to waste all of that competence on something that feels like a very forced (and never-ending) remake/extension of OHMSS.
 


Westdene Seagull

aka Cap'n Carl Firecrotch
NSC Patron
Oct 27, 2003
21,111
The arse end of Hangleton
Saw it this morning. Fitting end to DCs tenure. Great film - may become my favourite Bond film after a few more watches. Madaline Swann sexy as ever but boy the CIA agent he teams up with :love: Only one scene disappointed .... won't give a spoiler though.
 






SUIYHP

The King's Gull
Apr 16, 2009
1,899
Inside Southwick Tunnel
Won’t happen, he’s 5ft 9. I think DC was the shortest Bond yet at 5ft 10, can’t see them dipping any lower. In Casino Royale Fleming described Bond as being 6ft.

Doubt height would be an issue. Remember when some people got upset that Daniel Craig would become the first blonde Bond? I agree though- Hardy isn’t quite right for Bond. Still think Richard Madden is the best choice- we’re overdue a Scot playing the role again.
 


jcdenton08

Enemy of the People
NSC Patron
Oct 17, 2008
10,818
Very good, but I have thee complaints:

1) Too long, as you say.
2) Stupid American-style shootouts featuring very little blood (obviously), the baddies letting off 15 rounds of machine gun fire and missing everything before Bond hits with one pistol shot. We can accept a few of these, but there were loads of them
3) The scene where he was being chased by a helicopter and several vehicles was just stupid.

But the plot is really good, so is the acting and the SFX. I'd still recommend it overall.

Good points. Kind of thing I was aware of while watching but my brain just goes "that's a bit stupid..". I think I'm so used to that kind of silliness now... The helicopter bit was ridiculous but throughout the how movie it never got to "invisible car" levels of cheese.
 




Acker79

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Nov 15, 2008
31,921
Brighton
Saw it last night.

Got disappointed.

Main issues:

Unlike the old movies, the Craig movies are all linked. But there seems to have been pretty much no planning in how or why they are linked, and its all very "we make it up as we go".

James Bond being lost for years without anyone knowing where he is for the second time in five movies.
James Bond accidently discovering some massive criminal organisation for the second time in five movies.
James Bond trying to leave his job because he is in love with some woman for the second time in five movies.
Just stupid.

Odd complaints. Trying to avoid spoilers...
Firstly, I'm pretty sure he wasn't missing the other time - I seem to recall M making the point she always knew where he was.
Secondly if your definition of 'massive criminal organisation' is a bad guy with a small army, that isn't the second time in 5 movies, it's the 25th time in 25 movies. Because that's every movie. The bad guy this time wasn't a spectre-like organisation, it was a bad guy with a plan to do bad things.
Thirdly, I don't recall him trying to leave his job. He re-joined the 00s during the film and I don't recall any desire on his part to retire.

Also the villain who I cant even remember the name of... Remi Marko? Remi Malko? Something. I might get the answers if I see this again but... What does he want?

Trying to avoid spoilers, again. Primarily, revenge for what happened to his family. Secondarily, the love of the woman he had a fixation on, thirdly, the same thing the bad guys always want - lots of money/power, via possession and/or selling the films macguffin.
 


The Clamp

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jan 11, 2016
24,626
West is BEST
The franchise can’t afford him but get Tom Hardy.


No. He can be good in the right film. Bond isn’t that film. He’d make an awful Bond.

Henry Lloyd-Hughes or James Norton would be my choices.

As for NTTD, I really enjoyed it. Yeah, there’s bits that it could have done without, it’s not massively original, it’s a bit long (I didn’t notice the length) but it rattles along and it’s a silly Bond film at its heart. And I thought Craig was fantastic as Bond.

I have only ever had a passing interest in Bond before Craig. I never liked Connery, Moore was just silly and all the films blurred into one for me. OHMSS is great, which is probably why I liked NTTD.
Dalton was good but unfortunately got stuck in the 80’s films so had to wear blouses and suffer appalling special effects.
Brosnan was silly fun but enjoyable. Craig smashed it, best Bond so far.

I’d like to see a one off retro Bond. Real old school spy thriller set in the 60’s. A one off film not connected to all the Craig back story. Then just leave it for a while.
 
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The Clamp

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jan 11, 2016
24,626
West is BEST
I still think one of the best Bond openings is Brosnan’s bungee off the dam in Goldeneye. The silence as he jumps is breathtaking.
For pure, perfectly executed, cinematic stunt work you’d have to go along way to beat it. It still holds up some 25/26 years later.

Quite the intro for Brosnan.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=z9EV4Vdb3Zw
 
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Easy 10

Brain dead MUG SHEEP
Jul 5, 2003
61,812
Location Location
I never took to Brosnan at all. A bit TOO suave, never a hair out of place, and not particularly convincing as a hard man.

The emergence of Bourne forced the Bond franchise to up its game, to become grittier and less silly. Daniel Craig was perfect for that, there was a convincing brutality to him and Casino Royale was the perfect relaunch - sensational, by far and away the best Bond since the days of Connery. The only problem being that CR set such a high water mark, none of the one's that followed could live up to it. Quantum was dull, Skyfall was decent, Spectre was meh.

Really looking forward to seeing NTTD. Whoever follows Bond will have big shoes to fill, because he's easily the best since Connolly. Nobody does it better ?

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Lol, I meant Connery. What the hell.
 


Kinky Gerbil

Im The Scatman
NSC Patron
Jul 16, 2003
57,958
hassocks
Very good, but I have thee complaints:

1) Too long, as you say.
2) Stupid American-style shootouts featuring very little blood (obviously), the baddies letting off 15 rounds of machine gun fire and missing everything before Bond hits with one pistol shot. We can accept a few of these, but there were loads of them
3) The scene where he was being chased by a helicopter and several vehicles was just stupid.

But the plot is really good, so is the acting and the SFX. I'd still recommend it overall.

I’m really put off going to the cinema now because of the length of films now, there was no need for this film to be as long as it was.
 
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jcdenton08

Enemy of the People
NSC Patron
Oct 17, 2008
10,818
I’m really out off going to the cinema now because of the length of films now, there was no need for this film to be as long as it was.

I suspect it was meant to feel epic - and it does - a grand farewell to Craig's tenure.
 


Swansman

Pro-peace
May 13, 2019
22,320
Sweden
I never took to Brosnan at all. A bit TOO suave, never a hair out of place, and not particularly convincing as a hard man.

The emergence of Bourne forced the Bond franchise to up its game, to become grittier and less silly. Daniel Craig was perfect for that, there was a convincing brutality to him and Casino Royale was the perfect relaunch - sensational, by far and away the best Bond since the days of Connery. The only problem being that CR set such a high water mark, none of the one's that followed could live up to it. Quantum was dull, Skyfall was decent, Spectre was meh.

Really looking forward to seeing NTTD. Whoever follows Bond will have big shoes to fill, because he's easily the best since Connolly. Nobody does it better ?

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Lol, I meant Connery. What the hell.

Brosnan never got to work with a script anywhere near what Craig got to work with. I think Brosnan grew into the role in a fine way, he is very good in TWINE and out of all the people involved in DAD, he is pretty much the only one you dont want to beat the shit out of after watching the movie.

Three of his four movies are pure action movies. In GE, TND and DAD you could call his character John McClane or Martin Riggs and they wouldnt have to change much in the movies.

Its possible Brosnan could have done a decent job in Casino Royale as he is a very good actor if you give him a decent script. Agree that Craig has done a good job though, and Casino Royale felt very fresh but after that the series has just gone very confused.

Didnt like NTTD very much, as mentioned before, but its certainly a better send off than most Bond actors get. Sean Connery in that hideous Never Say Never Again version, Roger Moore being a bazillion years old in dull AVTAK, Dalton in the failed LTK experiment and Brosnan in DAD which is one of the worst movies ever made any budget any category. All shite. At least Craig gets to end his era with something slightly better.

Next Bond I hope will be someone who exudes charm and confidence, and hopefully they'll skip all the Bond character development nonsense because they are not doing it well.
 






peterward

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Nov 11, 2009
11,389
I still think one of the best Bond openings is Brosnan’s bungee off the dam in Goldeneye. The silence as he jumps is breathtaking.
For pure, perfectly executed, cinematic stunt work you’d have to go along way to beat it. It still holds up some 25/26 years later.

Quite the intro for Brosnan.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=z9EV4Vdb3Zw

Great opening, great film..... And lord knows how many hours I spent playing the game on the Nintendo 64!
 


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