Huddersfield Town Vs Brighton & Hove Albion ***Official Match Thread***

[Triggaaar]

I am going to remain positive with an air of caution.

 

[Prince Monolulu]

No I didn't. I can add, of course that would be good enough. But 'win at home, draw away' is a common cliche that is wrong, not because it wouldn't give you enough points mathematically, but because it suggests that draws away from home are enough, and they're not.

Indeed, I'm delighted with the points tally so far, just disagree with one old cliche.

I am sure you would have taken 2nd with 7 points after 3 games.

 

[Arkwright]

I don't agree with this fallacy. You can't finish top 6 with just drawing away games.

look at tonight's results loads of draws, win on Saturday and tonight's result will be looked upon as a good result. Oh and we don't just draw away from home I seem to remember a win at Fulham........

 

[Bring back Bryan wade!!]

Think it's more to do how well we play first half and totally under pressure second. ( pretty much in all 3 games)Something doesn't seem right.

Our winning goals against Forest and Fulham both came in the 2nd half...

 

[Prince Monolulu]

 

[jimbob5]

What point are you actually trying to make?? I mean seriously compare Millwall's squad last season to ours this season. We are FAR FAR stronger. Completely pointless statement.

Calm down dear.

 

[Triggaaar]

I am sure you would have taken 2nd with 7 points after 3 games.

Was it my comment ("I'm delighted with the points tally so far"), that you quoted, that gave it away?

 

[albionite]

No I didn't. I can add, of course that would be good enough. But 'win at home, draw away' is a common cliche that is wrong, not because it wouldn't give you enough points mathematically, but because it suggests that draws away from home are enough, and they're not.

Indeed, I'm delighted with the points tally so far, just disagree with one old cliche.

Win all home and draw all away gives 92pts, pretty sure would give you a top 2 place

 

[TonyW]

One match at a time, we are by no means Top 6 material at present, but who gives a Donald? Roll on Blackburn then Ipswich. Der der der der der der der der.

"By no means top 6 material"?

I guess you haven't watched us play yet this season then.

 

[brightn'ove]

I don't agree with this fallacy. You can't finish top 6 with just drawing away games.

Let's be honest ... do you agree with anything?

 

[Triggaaar]

Let's be honest ... do you agree with anything?

Not much

 

[Dolph Ins]

On the positive side all the new players look good and the old players are performing better than last year.

On the negative side I have just finished my bottle of wine.

I will take that positive and go and open another bottle of wine.

 

[Prince Monolulu]

Was it my comment ("I'm delighted with the points tally so far"), that you quoted, that gave it away?

Yet oddly pessimistic around that graciously positive aura?

 

[TonyW]

Win all home and draw all away gives 92pts, pretty sure would give you a top 2 place

Quite!

Really worries me sometimes the lack of football knowledge some of our fans actually have.

 

[Acker79]

But that wouldn't happen. The question is, are draws away from home good enough, and the answer is no, they're not.

It seems like you believe it possible to draw all our away games, but impossible to win all our home games (you're quick to dismiss the idea we can win all our home games, but seem to suggest drawing all our away games isn't enough - not that it won't happen). I'd say both were very unlikely. Of course we should be looking to win every game. "Win at home, win away" and you'll guarantee promotion, but that ain't gonna happen either.

The sentiment behind "draw away, win at home" is perfectly innocuous. At its heart it's the same as aiming for "2pt per game average" that so many people suggest as the aim for promotion, while acknowledging that (in theory) home games are expected to be easier to win due to home advantage.

It's not about trying to draw every away game, but that away from home a draw is not to be sniffed at.

Are away draws ever good enough? Yes, of course they are. We need one point to guarantee promotion? A draw will do that. Playing a team right below us in the table? A draw is good enough. A win in both cases is better, but the draw is enough.

 

[Peter Grummit]

No I didn't.

Quote Originally Posted by Arkwright View Post
Draw away and win at home = top six finish.

I don't agree with this fallacy.

 

[Triggaaar]

Yet oddly pessimistic around that graciously positive aura?

Well I'm a bit stressed having had to sit through the pain of listening to us on the radio, and a I'd have liked a win against a side that I don't think will do much this year. Obviously delighted to have won the first two games, so 7 points from 9 is fantastic. Not delighted to have drawn tonight though, and it's tonight that I'm thinking about mostly at the moment. And being stressed, I was reacting to a cliche I disagree with.

 

[TonyW]

Quote Originally Posted by Arkwright View Post
Draw away and win at home = top six finish.

Guaranteed

 

[jimbob5]

Happy that with the side still gelling, new (and possibly key) players still to come into the side and a new system in place, we've dropped only two points in three games - with two of those away from home.

As learning curves go this one seems pretty painless. Well played lads.

Really?

 

[Machiavelli]

But you quoted someone saying win at home draw away as not being good enough. Of course we wont win every home game nor draw every away game, but if we did (on average) we would be promoted. KIts a question of arithmetic.

PG

What use is arithmetic when you've got Triggaaarnomotry*?

* I've used this before. Apologies. What's more, I may do so again.