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[Albion] Has Robert Sanchez saved a penalty???



Jimmy Grimble

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Our players penalty record since we’ve been in the Premier League:

Murray - scored 8, missed 2
Gross - scored 5, missed 3
Welbeck - missed 1
Maupay - scored 5, missed 3
Macallister - scored 5, missed 1
Trossard - scored 1

A 70% conversation rate which is below par.

Probably contributes to that feeling of ‘we never save penalties’ because for every 10 penalties we take we fail with 3 of them, so we are used to seeing them saved/missed. Understandably, we might expect similar to happen the other way round but that’s certainly not the case. Roughly, for every 8 penalties the opposition take against us they fail with 1.
 
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zefarelly

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Jul 7, 2003
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Twatting about on the line just gives a bang average taker the advantage, wait till he's moving left and shoot right, or visa versa.

charging out of your area like the spuds keeper did as well is just daft.
 


Swansman

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May 13, 2019
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Twatting about on the line just gives a bang average taker the advantage, wait till he's moving left and shoot right, or visa versa.

charging out of your area like the spuds keeper did as well is just daft.
And every other PL keeper. Most of them seem to prefer intercepting long passes from the opponents rather than allowing the striker a 1on1 on goal.
 


Elbow750

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Jun 21, 2020
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He hasn't saved a penalty for us but he's faced 9 and 7 have been scored. The other two were missed by Sterling for Man City and Calvert-Lewin for Everton, both blazed over the bar.
Which sounds like a better record than our penalty takers have (or at least when Maupay was with us!) Doesn't matter how they are 'saved'. A blaze over the bar can be down to good keeping psychology....
 




nwgull

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Jul 25, 2003
13,838
Manchester
Conversion rate for penalties is 76%, so 7 out of 9 is about average. I don't think either Sanchez or Ryan were very good at pens, but Sanchez at least has the advantage of presenting a much more imposing figure to beat, and this psychological aspect probably makes the taker more likely to miss.
 


amexer

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Aug 8, 2011
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Not worried about penalties. More concerned about ability to make contact with ball when he comes of his line.
 


raymondo

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Apr 26, 2017
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Wiltshire
I don’t think Sanchez is anywhere near being a great keeper …. Yet.
He makes many great saves but has at least one mistake a game in him. Unless the opposition don’t bother attacking.
Great at reaction saves, but poor when has time to make a decision...IMO
 




Swansman

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May 13, 2019
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In reply to OP, Sanchez saved one against Cheltenham when he was a Forest Green. Tried to find a video of it but just read about it. So yeah he has.
 




Swansman

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May 13, 2019
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Our players penalty record since we’ve been in the Premier League:

Murray - scored 8, missed 2
Gross - scored 5, missed 3
Welbeck - missed 1
Maupay - scored 5, missed 3
Macallister - scored 5, missed 1
Trossard - scored 1

A 70% conversation rate which is below par.

Probably contributes to that feeling of ‘we never save penalties’ because for every 10 penalties we take we fail with 3 of them, so we are used to seeing them saved/missed. Understandably, we might expect similar to happen the other way round but that’s certainly not the case. Roughly, for every 8 penalties the opposition take against us they fail with 1.
Fairly normal stats for a team usually in the bottom half.

The conversation rate on penalties is close to 90% when leading a game and somewhere around 60% when behind. The more you need to score the penalty, the more difficult it gets.

If there was no pressure involved, pretty much every elite footballer would score 9 out f 10.
 




Wardy's twin

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Oct 21, 2014
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Fairly normal stats for a team usually in the bottom half.

The conversation rate on penalties is close to 90% when leading a game and somewhere around 60% when behind. The more you need to score the penalty, the more difficult it gets.

If there was no pressure involved, pretty much every elite footballer would score 9 out f 10.
or possibly the teams at the top have better players and this is reflected in the quality of penalty taker...
 


Swansman

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May 13, 2019
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or possibly the teams at the top have better players and this is reflected in the quality of penalty taker...
Sure that has some impact as well, but each player at this level - if there's no pressure involved - are able to make a hard shot on goal from 11 meters.
 


Jimmy Grimble

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Fairly normal stats for a team usually in the bottom half.

The conversation rate on penalties is close to 90% when leading a game and somewhere around 60% when behind. The more you need to score the penalty, the more difficult it gets.

If there was no pressure involved, pretty much every elite footballer would score 9 out f 10.
Not really normal, no. Here are the conversion rates of penalties taken in the Premier League for the current bottom 10:

Forest - 94.4%
Wolves - 95.8%
Leeds - 95.1%
West Ham - 81.2%
Leicester - 81.8%
Southampton - 88.4%
Villa - 79.2%
Bournemouth - 80%
Palace - 81.3%
Everton - 75.9%
 




Jimmy Grimble

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Here’s the top half:

Brentford - 100%
Brighton - 70.6%
Liverpool - 85.6%
Fulham - 82.3%
Man Utd - 79.9%
Chelsea - 86.9%
Newcastle - 88.7%
Spurs - 81.9%
Man City - 79.4%
Arsenal - 84.2%

And last years relegated teams:

Norwich - 90.9%
Burnley - 88%
Watford - 81.3%

I think it’s fair to say we have not been good at penalties in the Premier League…
 




Nobby Cybergoat

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Jul 19, 2021
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Meanwhile a penalty against us has resulted in a goal, if I was going to guess, on about the last 30 occasions
 






GT49er

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Feb 1, 2009
46,813
Gloucester
Tonight he has.
..............and maybe some thick as sh*t entitled Chelsea gimps will stop reading NSC and grizzling that they've been fobbed off with (#teamslikeBrighton)'s third choice GK and realise that they've landed a pretty good one who has already saved them more points than they've lost this season, and good value for £25M (the 4th. highest fee for a GK - or something close?).
Some NSC will continue the narrative, no doubt.
 


Sheebo

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Jul 13, 2003
29,297
78 or so hours is a long time in football Robert - you absolute sell out sulky **** 🤣
 


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