[News] Hamas/Gaza/Israel

[borat]

I disagree.

Sure, an individual won’t persuade a foreign power to stop what they’re doing. But he had a vote as an MP to make a difference, and he chose to follow the party-line of abstaining on a ceasefire. So practically all Tories and Labour (with a few notable exceptions) gave Bibi the green light to continue the onslaught, along with the US and most of the EU (again with some exceptions). Making us complicit.

With issues such as these - you need to speak out, and as far as I’m aware the Honourable Member for Hove hasn’t been critical of the Israeli government at all, and has defended them every step of the way.

I've mentioned this before....Peter Kyle is Chair of Labour Friends of Israel and close to Starmer.

He's not going to speak up against the ongoing genocide.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

I just heard labour have withdrawn support for the gobshite in Rochdale. Does that mean Labour are OK again, or should we still condemn them for turning a blind eye to the evils of Israel for the last 1,000 years?

 

[Westdene Seagull]

Any one still claiming the Israeli response is measured and proportionate needs to.watch this report

The IDF and the Israeli government are absolute scum of the earth and need to be standing in The Hague and punished for their crimes.

 

[Psychobilly freakout]

Any one still claiming the Israeli response is measured and proportionate needs to.watch this report

The IDF and the Israeli government are absolute scum of the earth and need to be standing in The Hague and punished for their crimes.

Not gonna happen is it, just strong words from the USA & Uk....

They will do what they want to do, I can only come to the conclusion that Israel or the powers that be in charge want the Palestinian people removed from the complete Gaza strip denying the Palestinian people access to the sea. I would not put it past them to then turn their attentions to the west bank and drive them from there too...

Genocide is the only word that springs to mind, be careful what you wish for Israel, history repeats it's self and your asking for a back lash from countries that won't think twice about dropping a dirty bomb on you.

 

[BenGarfield]

The creation of Israel in the way it was created was folly. But that's history. And so your take on the last 75 years is partial. The Arabs have always wanted to throw the jews into the sea. America holds all the cards. The 'international community' is what, exactly? The whole world? This hjas all been dealt with mose eloquently on this thread by @Zeberdi and others.

You will be please to know that some in Labour have been 'speaking out'. Oh....hang on....

Unfortunately it is now too late for labour to bin their candidate in the Rochdale Byelection who has apologised profusely for saying "They deliberately took the security off, they allowed … that massacre that gives them the green light to do whatever they bloody want.”. Oh dear. They wanted to be beaten up. It was an open invitation. Contributory negligence!

Anti-semites just cannot help themselves it seems. However because the candidate cannot now be replaced because the byelection is too soon the right is having a field day by claiming that Starmer supports the antisemitism. Even the Independent; from their website "Meanwhile, Labour is facing mounting pressure for their continued support of Rochdale’s by-election candidate after he claimed Israel deliberately relaxed security to allow Hamas to carry out their 7 October attack, to provide grounds to invade Gaza."

Politics is the art of the possible. For you some good honest condemnation of Israel seems to be the start and the finish of it. Join the queue, but be careful to not get too chummy with the bloke in front of you.

Why do you think what the Rochdale Labour candidate

The creation of Israel in the way it was created was folly. But that's history. And so your take on the last 75 years is partial. The Arabs have always wanted to throw the jews into the sea. America holds all the cards. The 'international community' is what, exactly? The whole world? This hjas all been dealt with mose eloquently on this thread by @Zeberdi and others.

You will be please to know that some in Labour have been 'speaking out'. Oh....hang on....

Unfortunately it is now too late for labour to bin their candidate in the Rochdale Byelection who has apologised profusely for saying "They deliberately took the security off, they allowed … that massacre that gives them the green light to do whatever they bloody want.”. Oh dear. They wanted to be beaten up. It was an open invitation. Contributory negligence!

Anti-semites just cannot help themselves it seems. However because the candidate cannot now be replaced because the byelection is too soon the right is having a field day by claiming that Starmer supports the antisemitism. Even the Independent; from their website "Meanwhile, Labour is facing mounting pressure for their continued support of Rochdale’s by-election candidate after he claimed Israel deliberately relaxed security to allow Hamas to carry out their 7 October attack, to provide grounds to invade Gaza."

Politics is the art of the possible. For you some good honest condemnation of Israel seems to be the start and the finish of it. Join the queue, but be careful to not get too chummy with the bloke in front of you.

What the Labour candidate said was antisemitic? It’s possibly incorrect but why antisemitic?

 

[aolstudios]

Why do you think what the Rochdale Labour candidate


What the Labour candidate said was antisemitic? It’s possibly incorrect but why antisemitic?

It's conspiracy theory piffle that's close to Antisemitic at the least. Add him blaming "People in the media from certain Jewish quarters" for another candidate's demise sealed the deal.
He appears to be a brain dead fool who has a problem with Jews & that's just going by what he's said on the record.
For Starmer to be prepared to give this seat away is a hell of a precedent (a good one, imo)

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Why do you think what the Rochdale Labour candidate


What the Labour candidate said was antisemitic? It’s possibly incorrect but why antisemitic?

Because it is.

You fool!

 

[chip]

I think this thread demonstrates why humanity will always have these problems until we eventually wipe ourselves out.

 

[Zeberdi]

I think this thread demonstrates why humanity will always have these problems until we eventually wipe ourselves out.

As do half the threads on NSC - people not listening, trolling threads or people they don’t like, not being able to see nuance in situations and incapable of stepping outside the echo chamber. But there are also great debates, informed discussions and compassion for others expressed too.

’Humanity’ isn’t perfect and reflects a broad spectrum of people, some of whom are genuinely good people and capable of embracing those that come from different cultural/ethnic backgrounds.

Humanity has the capacity for ’good’ as well as ‘bad’. It’s all down to the choices we make as to how we behave/live.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

I think this thread demonstrates why humanity will always have these problems until we eventually wipe ourselves out.

We can do better than that.

Consider, mainstream telly no longer shows Bernard Manning, Love Thy Neighbour, or that other shite, name escapes me (language school, where we can all laugh at the silly foringers).

One, if one has the bent, can always find shite to wank over off the internet, and there will always be a swamp.

Meanwhile he rest of us can rise above, as we engage with better

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Because it is.

You fool!

"Mr Ali is alleged to have blamed "people in the media from certain Jewish quarters"

Which certain quarters would that be? The money lenders? The Zionists? The Great conspiracists? The usurers?

Or the antiquarians. Or the philosophers. The physicians. The architects?

Mmmmmm...........now let me think a bit............Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm........

 

[knocky1]

Why do you think what the Rochdale Labour candidate


What the Labour candidate said was antisemitic? It’s possibly incorrect but why antisemitic?

You have the lol from AOL and have upset wrinkled Harry Wilson's Tackle. God knows why.
The slaughter continues.
Israel

 

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[nicko31]

Filmed over a year an insight of how life for the Palestinians in the West Bank has gone from bad to worse. Driven from their land by illegal Israeli settlers, meanwhile the army looks the other way.

A tough watch...

West Bank settler expansion: a year on the frontline

In the West Bank tensions between Israelis and Palestinians have been a fact of life for decades.

www.channel4.com

 

[borat]

Quoting the UN report.

''Palestinian women and girls have reportedly been arbitrarily executed in Gaza, often together with family members, including their children, according to information received. “We are shocked by reports of the deliberate targeting and extrajudicial killing of Palestinian women and children in places where they sought refuge, or while fleeing. Some of them were reportedly holding white pieces of cloth when they were killed by the Israeli army or affiliated forces,” the experts said''

https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2024/02/israelopt-un-experts-appalled-reported-human-rights-violations-against?s=08

 

[:J)]

Breaking news: 77 people killed and about 250 injured by Israeli strikes while waiting for aid



Nothing on the BBC, Sky News, ITV or Channel 4 - but there is this bit of essential breaking news on BBC World:

 

[:J)]

Breaking news update: At least 104 killed and about 750 injured whilst trying to access aid (bags of flour).

BBC and Sky News have caught up with the news, and seek clarification from the IDF. Three available options:
1. Stampede
2. A truck (driven by a civilian)
3. Hamas


Alternatively:

 

[borat]

Breaking news: 77 people killed and about 250 injured by Israeli strikes while waiting for aid



Nothing on the BBC, Sky News, ITV or Channel 4 - but there is this bit of essential breaking news on BBC World:

Sickening. No depths to the depravity of the IDF

And to think both Sunak and Starmer are have backed/are backing this.

 

[wellquickwoody]

IDF possible causes are ridiculous

1 Stampede - You can hear the gunfire
2 Truck runs them over - You can hear the gunfire
3 Hamas - This is northern Gaza that the IDF cleared out weeks ago.

 

[POP_TONEZ]

I saw a photograph yesterday of the remains of a man who had been bulldozed by the IDF it's the worst picture I've ever seen and I can't get it out my heads its f***ing me right up.

The most gory thing I've seen