[News] Dave Courtney

[Cheshire Cat]

Dave Courtney - Wikipedia

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Oh, a thug.

 

[GT49er]

Excuse my ignorance but who is he?

I think the question should be, "Who was he?" Oh well....dead? Probably for the best......................

 

[amexer]

never heard of him. Thought was about Brighton man who managed Leo Sayer

 

[Super Steve Earle]

Let's be honest, this thread wasn't particularly needed. A gangster who barely anybody has heard of.

 

[dangull]

It's like asking for sympathy for the devil, as the Rolling Stones song goes.

 

[Brian Fantana]

I met him at a charity event in the City of London in aid of some alms houses in South East London, in about 2016/2017. I didn’t have any idea who he was at the time, but he seemed to be someone who genuinely cared about the welfare of people who lived around him.

I know very little about his history to be honest, but on the one interaction I had with him, he seemed a decent bloke.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Dave Courtney - Wikipedia

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Edit. I don't think I want to get involved either, @Pevenseagull

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Frankie Fraser called him a grass, which is as bad as it gets in his world, it was only because of gangsters further up the food chain that supported him that nothing happened to him.

And anyway this Frankie Fraser during WW2 when my grandads were fighting in Europe and putting fires out in London was burgling houses of the traumatised population and once said that he could never forgive Hitler for surrendering.

Was he mad?

 

[dazzer6666]

I met him at a charity event in the City of London in aid of some alms houses in South East London, in about 2016/2017. I didn’t have any idea who he was at the time, but he seemed to be someone who genuinely cared about the welfare of people who lived around him.

I know very little about his history to be honest, but on the one interaction I had with him, he seemed a decent bloke.

Decent bloke

Courtney often focuses on his links with gangsters such as Reggie Kray[8] and Lenny McLean,[9] although he was nine years old when Kray was imprisoned. Courtney has claimed to have been shot, stabbed, had his nose bitten off, and stated that he has had to kill to stay alive.[10] He makes the claim that his involvement in a car crash on the M20 was an attempt by "someone who had a grudge against him" to kill him.[11]

Courtney often referred to himself as Dave Courtney OBE, the suffix standing for One Big Ego. His house in Plumstead, called Camelot Castle, was decorated with union flags and the cross of St George, a painted depiction of himself as a knight and a large knuckle duster.[12]

Courtney claimed to have been involved in debt-collecting, minding clubs,[13] assault, contraband, and murder.[14] He also claims he has spent time in Belmarsh Prison as a high security prisoner,[15] which has been backed up by ex-prison guard Jim Dawkins in his book The Loose Screw.[16]

In his book F**k the Ride, Courtney claims to have been found not guilty in 19 separate trials.

On 22 October 2023, Courtney died by a self-inflicted gunshot wound at his home in Plumstead. He was 64.

 

[papajaff]

Yawn

 

[mikeyjh]

1 dead c***, the world is a better place. Marmite my arse.

 

[METALMICKY]

Agree completely about the tragedy of current suicide figures Lenny, but if an individual is going to take out their issues in extreme violence to other sections of society and then hugely exaggerate and boast about what they have done to try to cover their own inadequacies, they won't get a lot of sympathy from me. Sorry

And that will be echoed by 90% of the responses on this thread. Sorry Ian but despite the fine sentiment about suicide rates you've misread the room badly. Sorry

 

[GT49er]

1 dead c***, the world is a better place. Marmite my arse.

Generally agree - but you just get on with doing whatever you want with your marmite ........ please no details!

 

[loz]

Nice little ditty by US punk legends Rancid..

When I saw Rancid at the Brixton academy a few years back they bought him onstage… I personally didn’t think it was big or clever.

But RIP

 

[Psychobilly freakout]

Frankie Fraser called him a grass, which is as bad as it gets in his world, it was only because of gangsters further up the food chain that supported him that nothing happened to him.

And anyway this Frankie Fraser during WW2 when my grandads were fighting in Europe and putting fires out in London was burgling houses of the traumatised population and once said that he could never forgive Hitler for surrendering.

Frankie Fraser was a low life as you say, he got his reputation only through inflicting barbaric cruelty on folks after they had already been tortured or were still tied up, muppet of a man.

 

[Brian Fantana]

Decent bloke

Courtney often focuses on his links with gangsters such as Reggie Kray[8] and Lenny McLean,[9] although he was nine years old when Kray was imprisoned. Courtney has claimed to have been shot, stabbed, had his nose bitten off, and stated that he has had to kill to stay alive.[10] He makes the claim that his involvement in a car crash on the M20 was an attempt by "someone who had a grudge against him" to kill him.[11]

Courtney often referred to himself as Dave Courtney OBE, the suffix standing for One Big Ego. His house in Plumstead, called Camelot Castle, was decorated with union flags and the cross of St George, a painted depiction of himself as a knight and a large knuckle duster.[12]

Courtney claimed to have been involved in debt-collecting, minding clubs,[13] assault, contraband, and murder.[14] He also claims he has spent time in Belmarsh Prison as a high security prisoner,[15] which has been backed up by ex-prison guard Jim Dawkins in his book The Loose Screw.[16]

In his book F**k the Ride, Courtney claims to have been found not guilty in 19 separate trials.

On 22 October 2023, Courtney died by a self-inflicted gunshot wound at his home in Plumstead. He was 64.

As I say, I knew nothing about him when I met him (I don’t think I’d even heard of him before). I forget how was even introduced at the event and I didn’t really research him too much after.

 

[Psychobilly freakout]

As I say, I knew nothing about him when I met him (I don’t think I’d even heard of him before). I forget how was even introduced at the event and I didn’t really research him too much after.

So basically you took him as you found him, like 99% of all meetings, no need to explain yourself.
evil people have redeeming qualities, good people have evil streaks.

 

[Lenny Rider]

And that will be echoed by 90% of the responses on this thread. Sorry Ian but despite the fine sentiment about suicide rates you've misread the room badly. Sorry

Hands up, guilty as charged (ironic) apologies for offending anyone, unfortunately my judgement was clouded by the suicide aspect, which is very personal to me.

Where’s a moderator when you need one for a quick thread deletion?

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

His house in Plumstead, called Camelot Castle, was decorated with union flags and the cross of St George, a painted depiction of himself as a knight and a large knuckle duster.[12]

The state of his house is good enough reason to dislike him.

 

[BN9 BHA]

Hands up, guilty as charged (ironic) apologies for offending anyone, unfortunately my judgement was clouded by the suicide aspect, which is very personal to me.

Where’s a moderator when you need one for a quick thread deletion?

Don’t worry about it Lenny, I’m sure nobody is actually offended, this thread will probably be on page 4 of the BB tomorrow. Some people seem to be happy permanently arguing about politics on NSC but you get slated about starting this thread.