jakarta
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Could Nigel Farage end up a great British political leader?
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The most reliable source of information in human history of course, I do apologise......
daveinprague
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The source of most of your information I imagine.
Tell me about the reliable source you use? Is it the UKIP info pack?
Tell me about the reliable source you use? Is it the UKIP info pack?
Tom Hark Preston Park
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- Jul 6, 2003
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UKIP are clowns and buffoons. Will be just lovely to see them dissipate the Tory/Lib Dem vote 
daveinprague
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The plot thickens haha
Those #UKIP types who think #Farage is going to weather the #expenses scandal need to check the explosive headlines in the Times tomorrow
Those #UKIP types who think #Farage is going to weather the #expenses scandal need to check the explosive headlines in the Times tomorrow
a) Of course he won't. Politicians of all parties have been accused of expenses fiddles. Some have been found guilty - others not. None have sued the papers. I know that doesn't suit your hatred of UKIP.
b) And the Tories have members who have made fun of disabled people, Labour have members who have made racist comments etc etc etc. How do you propose UKIP check if people applying for membership are racist ? Maybe they should ask the question "What do you think of darkies ?" ?
Only need you to mention that bitter loser Alan Sked now and I'll have my DaveinPrague blinkered political bingo card full.
As much as dave is a total bore with his tiresome anti-fascist fighting (from 800 miles away) he is right to an extent. The UKIP is not made up exclusively of racists and xenophobes but is definitely home to the disaffected Tory vote who don't like failing to get their own way. It's all about not doing what Johnny Foreigner tells them to do, wearing tweed jackets, drinking pints of ale and toasting the queen.
The thing that dooms them to remain a side-show is that they are simply not inclusive enough. Socialist protectionists are anti-EU but would never vote UKIP. Masum (a British muslim), who sits next to me at work would never vote UKIP because of Farage's piss poor rhetoric recently that he says has alienated him.
You don't get into power in a first past the post system without appealing to a broad range of voters.
The thing that dooms them to remain a side-show is that they are simply not inclusive enough. Socialist protectionists are anti-EU but would never vote UKIP. Masum (a British muslim), who sits next to me at work would never vote UKIP because of Farage's piss poor rhetoric recently that he says has alienated him.
You don't get into power in a first past the post system without appealing to a broad range of voters.
daveinprague
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I dont 'fight' them... I point and laugh at them...and their supporters...sorry.
As for Farage no taking legal action against the Times.
Well, if it is untrue, then he has every reason to do so wouldnt he?
Being butchered in the press for 'nothing' in the British press preceding an election
would be quite damaging I would have thought.
As for Farage no taking legal action against the Times.
Well, if it is untrue, then he has every reason to do so wouldnt he?
Being butchered in the press for 'nothing' in the British press preceding an election
would be quite damaging I would have thought.
You don't really. You are on every thread sounding like Rik out of the Young Ones - a total sad act.
No need to apologise though - if you want to make yourself look like a tiresome plum, you go right ahead. That's what the internet is for.
daveinprague
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Sorry if commenting on a political thread is tiresome for you....
Funnily enough, every time I comment, I see the same people 'debating'... weird eh? haha
Funnily enough, every time I comment, I see the same people 'debating'... weird eh? haha
Footsoldier
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- May 26, 2013
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We're voting UKIP next month 
[MENTION=232]Simster[/MENTION] and myself aren't likely to ever agree politically but the point is that you seem to use different standards to measure the parties you hate to those that you favour. You'll see no wrong in say the left but no good at all in the right. Both have their faults and positives. A good example is that you think if Farage doesn't sue The Times then that damns him by his inaction. Yet find me a politician of ANY party that has sued over allegations of expenses fiddling ? NONE !
One day you'll take those blinkers off and actually take part in a balanced debate - until then you just come across as that moaning drunk at the end of the bar.
daveinprague
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If found guilty, not much point in suing is there? Which politicians, who have been accused by the press, and not been found guilty?
I genuinly cant think of any at the moment, and going out, so cant search...im sure somebody will supply though.
Those people were not LEADERS of parties, who have not been shy in bringing forward other parties frailties....including expenses.
Still, theres plenty coming out about UKIP this week by all accounts....lets see how it is by the end of the week.
I genuinly cant think of any at the moment, and going out, so cant search...im sure somebody will supply though.
Those people were not LEADERS of parties, who have not been shy in bringing forward other parties frailties....including expenses.
Still, theres plenty coming out about UKIP this week by all accounts....lets see how it is by the end of the week.
I suggest you wait until May before really judging. I suspect you might be posting a little less then.
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And if we give Labour another chance you can say goodbye to the UK forever. It will mean more migration, even more deeper control from the EU and even more political correctness. By the time they are finished you might as well pack up and leave this country because it won't belong to us anymore. It will be owned by other people who have paid little or nothing in to the system. Laugh at UKIP all you like and the people that support them, Farage is on to something. The UK cannot carry on the way it is without some people losing out. You can keep filling the country with as many people as people but eventually something has to give, and if we have another recession nobody will be getting any handouts because there will be too many people needing to claim. If you think it is fair on tax payers who have paid in to the system for years before to have their own services suffer due to overuse that to me proves that the whole EU open borders system has failed. If I came to the Czech Republic what could I claim in benefits compared to the UK? Will I also get free translations, free health service, free schooling just interested, because I feel the UK is far to generous.
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daveinprague
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I seriously doubt it haha
It's not just Labour, it's all of the major parties. None of them have any backbone at all any more. Too scared to be principled in case they offend their voters even if it is a truth that some people need to hear.
Meh and yet lolz. All these foreigners who have come here to do low paid work that the rest of us have no interest in, pay taxes and inadvertently top up our state pensions (how many Poles do you think will be back in 50 years to claim their £7.50 a week state pension they chipped in for?)
And yeh, there are many people (like [MENTION=1365]Westdene Seagull[/MENTION]) who have read up and made an informed opinion that UK are better off out of the EU, but the rump of their core vote are disaffected Tories and the other lot that "Farage is on to", namely the angry little white man who has no interest in broadening his own horizons and would rather believe the UK is in danger of becoming part of a United State of Europe than actually make an informed choice based on his own impartial research.
Mellor 3 Ward 4
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Correct.
Labour is bankrupt of ideas, and just promising more of the same as what got us into the mess in the first place. High spending, higher taxes and no limits to immigration. They actually want a UK population of 80 million.
The Tories are run by big business and look after their friends, and the Lib Dems haven't got a clue, and will destroyed in 2015.
Farage may be an idiot, but IMO he's just what the traditional politicians need, a good kick up the backside.
Oh, and as for the expenses, nothing like an attempt at a good smear just before an election.
Sounds about right imo.
beorhthelm
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- Jul 21, 2003
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playing on the "EU is corrupt" line he should have made sure his expences were whiter than white. he is an idiot and just shown himself to be no differerent in the end.
Surely that assumes the accusations are correct ? No innocent until proven guilty for Farage then ?