[Politics] Brexit

[Kalimantan Gull]

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politic...ean-parliament-voting-intention-brex-34-lab-1

Brexit party leading the way, Labour falling back, Lib Dems up a bit and the Tories struggling to get into double figures ... interesting possible repercussions if the polls turn out to be vaguely accurate. May finally forced out? New Brexiteer PM? Labour changing their Brexit fudge mix yet again? Defections from the main parties? Plus one certainty ... losers claiming the result is irrelevant and should be ignored.

Brexit party only 34%? I'd be delighted by that to be honest. It's certainly not a stinging majority for a no deal departure

I agree with you that the media will spin it as a victory for brexit and ignore the nuances...

Turn out is key though and I doubt the pollsters can model that very effectively.... and if turnout is below 50% it shouldn't be taken as a proxy second referendum whatever the result

 

[pb21]

But if you add all the parties that want or have promised to deliver some sort of Brexit you get over 60% ..... meaning remain should no longer be an option.

Maybe, but only the same basis that no deal is off the table.

 

[schmunk]

No sensible person wants to leave the EU.

Sadly, insensible people tend not to listen to sense.

 

[Garry Nelson's teacher]

It seems that Ollie Robbins is off to Brussels today to test out whether there is any room for manoeuvre with respect to the Political Agreement. The irony is that by the time he gets there the Cabinet might well have decided to call the whole thing off. (Not Brexit unfortunately but the shamefully limp, protracted and ultimately abortive attempt to seek an agreement with Labour. Neither party emerges from this process with any clarity yet alone credit.)

 

[The Clamp]

But if you add all the parties that want or have promised to deliver some sort of Brexit you get over 60% ..... meaning remain should no longer be an option.

Remain should always be an option. It’s called democracy, dear boy.

Either way I don’t want a second referendum. Leave or bin Brexit in my opinion. Leave voters haven’t suddenly grown brains, they won’t vote any different than last time and they’ll be intolerable when they win for a second time, which I think they will.

 

[A1X]

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politic...ean-parliament-voting-intention-brex-34-lab-1

Brexit party leading the way, Labour falling back, Lib Dems up a bit and the Tories struggling to get into double figures ... interesting possible repercussions if the polls turn out to be vaguely accurate. May finally forced out? New Brexiteer PM? Labour changing their Brexit fudge mix yet again? Defections from the main parties? Plus one certainty ... losers claiming the result is irrelevant and should be ignored.

Why isn't the Brexit party polling at 52%?

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

Why isn't the Brexit party polling at 52%?

It just might be that it is not a referendum?

 

[A1X]

It just might be that it is not a referendum?

But the Brexit Party tell us what the people voted for was a No Deal Brexit (which is questionable) and they are the only party that represents that (which is true). So surely if people were all voting for No Deal in June 2016 they should all be voting for the Brexit Party, no?


Or is what is actually true is that No Deal is not the majority preference, and as such pursuing that is undemocratic?

 

[JC Footy Genius]

Why isn't the Brexit party polling at 52%?

Amusing question considering how excitable you (and other Lib Dems) got with just 19% of the vote in council elections. Imagine the hysteria and claims If your lot were polling first by some distance with 34% in European elections!

Why are the unequivocal Remain parties combined polling numbers still behind the Brexit party?

 

[Thunder Bolt]

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[Thunder Bolt]

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[Lever]

Amusing question considering how excitable you (and other Lib Dems) got with just 19% of the vote in council elections. Imagine the hysteria and claims If your lot were polling first by some distance with 34% in European elections!

Why are the unequivocal Remain parties combined polling numbers still behind the Brexit party?

Easy to answer....
Simple messages and clever sloganising works effectively and generates hysteria amongst a sizeable section of the eurosceptic voting public and the Brexit Party has cornered the market on that!

They also use the cult of personality...

'Let's hear it for NIG-EL, NIG-EL' - (repeat ad nauseam - to use Rees-Mogg language!)

It's like a Trump rally - full of lies and bombast! But never mind the authenticity of the claims - IT WORKS!
Oh and of course....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPNovBwjW7U

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Oh dear

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[The Rivet]

Easy to answer....
Simple messages and clever sloganising works effectively and generates hysteria amongst a sizeable section of the eurosceptic voting public and the Brexit Party has cornered the market on that!

They also use the cult of personality...

'Let's hear it for NIG-EL, NIG-EL' - (repeat ad nauseam - to use Rees-Mogg language!)

It's like a Trump rally - full of lies and bombast! But never mind the authenticity of the claims - IT WORKS!
Oh and of course....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPNovBwjW7U

Farage gets right up remainers bums!

 

[Lever]

Farage gets right up remainers bums!

Oh dear... you have deteriorated since yesterday. No sensible comment then? Reduced to repulsive innuendo?

 

[Hu_Camus]

Easy to answer....
Simple messages and clever sloganising works effectively and generates hysteria amongst a sizeable section of the eurosceptic voting public and the Brexit Party has cornered the market on that!

They also use the cult of personality...

'Let's hear it for NIG-EL, NIG-EL' - (repeat ad nauseam - to use Rees-Mogg language!)

It's like a Trump rally - full of lies and bombast! But never mind the authenticity of the claims - IT WORKS!
Oh and of course....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPNovBwjW7U

or we could have the charm of the dear old Liberals with their take on DEMOCRATIC votes.

Let he who is without sin, fek off and break someone else's windows.

 

[Lever]

or we could have the charm of the dear old Liberals with their take on DEMOCRATIC votes.

Let he who is without sin, fek off and break someone else's windows.

....meaning?

 

[Two Professors]

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Dreadful,but it could be a lot worse.1,850 Ford jobs going in France,and 6,600 going in Germany,so we got off lightly.

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

It's common to hear Brexiters these days who oppose a further referendum on leaving the EU say that a new referendum must not take place because to do so would "endanger democracy".

I don't think that this arrant, scaremongering nonsense is called out nearly enough. It is absolute bollocks. Fantastical, panic-spreading guff. The UK is not going to turn into North Korea overnight if there is a further EU referendum. A referendum IS democracy. How on earth can democracy be endangered BY democracy? Everybody still gets a say (if the franchise is not so shamefully gerrymandered the way that it was in 2016 - that really was an affront to democracy).

stop sulking the vote was to leave , WE'RE LEAVING
regards
DR

 

[Two Professors]

Oh dear... you have deteriorated since yesterday. No sensible comment then? Reduced to repulsive innuendo?

Must have caught it from Remainers-personal attacks on Farage all the time,instead of policies.Running scared all the Brussels lapdogs.