Two Professors
Two Mad Professors
Try re-reading the first two sentences of my post...
So you are saying that NATO has no diplomatic role?Better close the headquarters in Brussels and get rid of all the civilians then.
Try re-reading the first two sentences of my post...
Lies told to Norway before they rejected EU membership.
Quite, the fact we know we cannot control EU immigration numbers if we vote remain, the fact we know every EU treaty signed leads to more powers leaving these shores, the fact we know ever closer union will continue no matter what we do or say, the fact we know we are helping to pay for Turkey and other accession countries to meet the required EU entry standard, the fact we are paying Billions every year just to be a member, the fact we have tier 2 membership and can be outvoted by an inbuilt tier 1 Eurozone majority, the fact we are on the losing side more often than any Nation in the Council of ministers .. to name but a few. I can't bring myself to believe romantic sentiment that this will all suddenly change, or that a brighter future awaits as we reform and mould the EU in a direction more to our liking.
Have you ever watched a Marx brothers film? (and I don't mean Karl)
1. Norway rejected joining the EU. The UK is in the EU and debating whether or not to leave. The potential economic consequences (most of which are conjecture on both sides) are therefore not comparable.
2. The Norwegian economy is propped up by the Sovereign Wealth Fund, worth I think around US$850 billion at the last count. They've managed to accumulate this by having a low population and massive oil and gas exports. Not really comparable to the UK situation.
She was born in Hamburg-even you could look that up.
thats not quite true, they have been debunked in as far as highlighting they ignore any positives outcomes or possible increases in trade out of the EU. they assume, in summary, that post Brexit the government would sit on its hands and do nothing proactive, change no regulation, make no trade agreements, and that crucially thousands of businesses would act in the same manner and not seek to adjust to the changing market. they only model the assumed reduction of trade with the EU. those august institutions assume the same as far as i can tell. by biasing the inputs and assumptions they reach a conclusion within the expected consensus.
She was born in Hamburg-even you could look that up.
So you are saying that NATO has no diplomatic role?Better close the headquarters in Brussels and get rid of all the civilians then.
That's all very well, but I don't think you've answered the question - the Brexit camp unfortunately has no numbers, and very few facts. It is increasingly resorting to the immigration argument and seeking to scare us with images of millions of Turks flooding our beautiful country. And, whilst many people are (rightly) concerned by the lack of democracy in some areas, they recognise that our economic prosperity will greater within rather than without the EU. I think the Leave campaign needs to try a new tack - I'm not sure what that might be, but the strategy to date is plainly not working.
So now that the leave campaign has comprehensively lost the economic argument what's their main point of attack. Apologies for not keeping up with the thread but reading back through pages of partisan nonsense for the odd nugget just isn't worth risking my sanity. So if one of you leave chappies could summarise your best points that would be great thanks
So now that the leave campaign has comprehensively lost the economic argument what's their main point of attack. Apologies for not keeping up with the thread but reading back through pages of partisan nonsense for the odd nugget just isn't worth risking my sanity. So if one of you leave chappies could summarise your best points that would be great thanks
Freedom of speech alive and kicking I see. It really was a DIY disaster for Remain.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/673205/eu-referendum-george-osborne-brexit
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...orne-s-latest-apocalyptic-warning-Brexit.html
Bendy bananas
Hitler
Costs us £24 billion an hour to be a member
read the thread yourself you lazy git :kiss
that odd one little nugget of into might be be a gamechanger:
Leave doesn't need an argument.
1. Norway rejected joining the EU. The UK is in the EU and debating whether or not to leave. The potential economic consequences (most of which are conjecture on both sides) are therefore not comparable.
2. The Norwegian economy is propped up by the Sovereign Wealth Fund, worth I think around US$850 billion at the last count. They've managed to accumulate this by having a low population and massive oil and gas exports. Not really comparable to the UK situation.
That's all very well, but I don't think you've answered the question - the Brexit camp unfortunately has no numbers, and very few facts. It is increasingly resorting to the immigration argument and seeking to scare us with images of millions of Turks flooding our beautiful country. And, whilst many people are (rightly) concerned by the lack of democracy in some areas, they recognise that our economic prosperity will greater within rather than without the EU. I think the Leave campaign needs to try a new tack - I'm not sure what that might be, but the strategy to date is plainly not working.