[Politics] Brexit

[beorhthelm]

unfortunate but predictable, government elected to deliver brexit will deliver brexit whatever.

 

[Garry Nelson's teacher]

Watching Shapps today at the Covid briefing desperately busking an answer to a question about Brexit, made me wonder what he really thinks. He was a Remainer and there are still a sprinkling of them in the upper reaches of the party. How can they stomach the way things are turning out? Surely, what we face is the worst sort of Brexit imaginable, especially when you throw in Covid. I can't pretend to think like one of these specimens, but just how bad do things have to be for them to resign? Naïve question I know.

At least the Brexit maniacs are consistent in their lunacy.

 

[beorhthelm]

It is politically impossible for Johnson to extend the transition period.

However.... he could do a temporary short term time limited deal to get round this, while they work on the long term deal.... and he could then claim the win.

but as you say, not an option politically here or there. both sides take position and unable to make simple concessions.

 

[nicko31]

It is politically impossible for Johnson to extend the transition period.

However.... he could do a temporary short term time limited deal to get round this, while they work on the long term deal.... and he could then claim the win.

In view of the fact Johnson has a large majority and there are exceptional circumstances with Covid they could easily extend, but they've chosen not to. Export businesses that are getting crushed this year will not take to this kindly should they be no deal

You say do a temporary short term deal, well this is the UK plan by leaving our borders open to light touch on import checks. They are hoping the EU will reciprocate, I very much doubt they will. Either extend properly or its WTO and you start again from scratch

The WTO has rules and I hope government understand them, its also pretty undemocratic as we are likely to discover

 

[Garry Nelson's teacher]

Heard one of the idiot Brexiteer MPs replay the old 'they need us more than we need them' trope (tripe) this morning. They've got us in the shite and they seem to be quite proud of it.

 

[nicko31]

Heard one of the idiot Brexiteer MPs replay the old 'they need us more than we need them' trope (tripe) this morning. They've got us in the shite and they seem to be quite proud of it.

I was going say the German car industry will come running, but seeing as its open borders and no tariffs for EU imports from January I'm not sure they will...

#losingcompletecontrol

 

[A1X]

Heard one of the idiot Brexiteer MPs replay the old 'they need us more than we need them' trope (tripe) this morning. They've got us in the shite and they seem to be quite proud of it.

There'll be a lot of doubling down in the next 6 months, followed by 12-18 months of wilful blindness, obfuscation and blaming it all on the EU / Remoaners / Sadiq Khan as it all plays out and people start to realise we're royally in the shit. They'd rather burn the place down than admit they might have got it wrong.

 

[beorhthelm]

Johnson says there will be a deal in July. i thought that might entertain people here.

 

[A1X]

Johnson says there will be a deal in July. i thought that might entertain people here.

Well if Boris Johnson says it's true...

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

The poor old EU, it's just a fading memory now , its been emotional.best wishes to Mr Barnier
Regards
DF

 

[Garry Nelson's teacher]

Johnson says there will be a deal in July. i thought that might entertain people here.

Their standard attack lines on this are

1. The British want and expect us not to have an extension. (Latest opinion poll says the opposite.)

2. We do not want an extension as British business require certainty. (Duh!)

 

[Garry Nelson's teacher]

PS Honestly we might as well have Ppf sorting out Brexit.

 

[JC Footy Genius]

Johnson says there will be a deal in July. i thought that might entertain people here.

Don't spoil their fun they have numerous recycled no-deal apocalypse scenarios to whine on about for the next few months. Same old same old ..

 

[Grombleton]

The poor old EU, it's just a fading memory now

That'll be the alzheimer's then.

 

[A1X]

Apologies if fixtures, but the Remaoning lefties at the Spectator have weighed in

[TWEET]1272519226637594624[/TWEET]

 

[nicko31]

Apologies if fixtures, but the Remaoning lefties at the Spectator have weighed in

[TWEET]1272519226637594624[/TWEET]

Sorry guys, you got groomed...

#victimsofbrexit

 

[Garry Nelson's teacher]

Apologies if fixtures, but the Remaoning lefties at the Spectator have weighed in

[TWEET]1272519226637594624[/TWEET]

Thanks for posting this. The data from the polling is really quite astonishing. It looks like only a matter of time before the swing voters in the north and midlands discover that they were sold a pup.

 

[Garry Nelson's teacher]

Liz Truss:

"Ambitious trade deals......with old friends like Australia and NZ are a ...powerful way for us to make good on the promise of Brexit."

A Dept of International Trade report found that a deal with Australia would be worth between 0.01 and 0.03% of GDP in the long term. A deal with NZ would be 'close to zero' in terms of its impact on the UK's GDP. Close to zero.

Of course, we all know that every little helps, but Jesus, this is grim. Sold a pup. (Brexiteers will no doubt tells us that this is Project Fear Revisited.)

 

[nicko31]

Liz Truss:

"Ambitious trade deals......with old friends like Australia and NZ are a ...powerful way for us to make good on the promise of Brexit."

A Dept of International Trade report found that a deal with Australia would be worth between 0.01 and 0.03% of GDP in the long term. A deal with NZ would be 'close to zero' in terms of its impact on the UK's GDP. Close to zero.

Of course, we all know that every little helps, but Jesus, this is grim. Sold a pup. (Brexiteers will no doubt tells us that this is Project Fear Revisited.)

Worth listening to form Aust PM Julia Gillard

https://twitter.com/bbcpolitics/status/1180084022992441344

 

[CheeseRolls]

Britain to scale back on independent satellite system - FT

https://uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUKKBN23Q38D

We will develop our own with a bankrupt American company. Taking back control in style.