Hampster Gull
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Spot on. We all know we will be poorer culturally and economically, she needs to be honest with us. It’s fine to appease her right wing extreme, but we know lies when we see it
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Spot on. We all know we will be poorer culturally and economically, she needs to be honest with us. It’s fine to appease her right wing extreme, but we know lies when we see it
nicko31
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There was me thinking John Hayes has been knighted today for being a principled MP of sound character and the timing in relation to the upcoming vote was all just an unfortunate coincidence.
This was all reported in The Sunday Times 6 weeks back.............................
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Problem is she needs to award another 80 knighthoods to get her deal over the line, strange times....
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nicko31
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Not if you're a 40% rate payer from April, £760 extra coming your way.
Wrong-Direction
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Ernest
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The DUP have said tonight if May's deal gets voted on they withdraw from the deal with the Tories, so if May's deal gets voted in then we have to have an election
beorhthelm
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Lincoln Imp
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My guess at the moment is that May will tell the EU this weekend that she can't get the deal past Parliament without a backstop adjustment and such an adjustment will be agreed, sufficient to reduce the number of Tory rebels and increase the number of Labour ones. The question then is whether the compromise will be announced and implemented before or after the vote on December 13. Both possible; after more likely.
Ernest
Stupid IDIOT
Tories not even bothering to hide the 'blue on blue' attacks on each other, they are totally finished now
https://www.iaindale.com/articles/tory-mps-go-to-war-over-john-hayes-utter-cock-knighthood
https://www.iaindale.com/articles/tory-mps-go-to-war-over-john-hayes-utter-cock-knighthood
Publius Ovidius
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The Spanish will scupper this and she will be rudderless
Gove for PM.
Gove for PM.
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Blimey - Spanish PM used word “co-sovereignty” here in relation to Gibraltar, saying today’s agreement allows him to talk about this with UK as post Brexit future relationship is negotiated in coming years. Not helpful to PM. But she’s not the only one with domestic constituency.
Have we just given Spain Gibraltar haha
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Blimey - Spanish PM used word “co-sovereignty” here in relation to Gibraltar, saying today’s agreement allows him to talk about this with UK as post Brexit future relationship is negotiated in coming years. Not helpful to PM. But she’s not the only one with domestic constituency.
Have we just given Spain Gibraltar haha
nicko31
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Its just the cherry of the top for May, Brexit at any cost...
vegster
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Anything just to hang on to power for another day and another and another.... can kicked down the road again.. one more day....
Ernest
Stupid IDIOT
So May has sold out Gibraltar now, what will she stitch up next before she is removed from office 
Ernest
Stupid IDIOT
I'd be scared if I live on the Isle of Wight, they'll be handed to the French next
Raleigh Chopper
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So May has sold out Gibraltar now, what will she stitch up next before she is removed from office
This is not true, it's fake news because only last week Theresa May said that she would not do this to Gibraltar.
She was asked this question in the commons PMQ by a Tory MP and she assured him that Gibraltar will never be part of the deal.
Unless of course she lied, again.
We will see project blame being cranked up by brexiteers in the next week or so.
“An increasingly desperate Theresa May on Sunday appeals to the British people to unite behind her Brexit deal as she calls on Leavers and Remainers to end hostilities and use the UK’s departure from the European Union to usher in a period of national “renewal and reconciliation”.”
What planet is this desperate woman on?
What planet is this desperate woman on?
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Talking of away with the fairies,where's all the Septic Pig predictions you said you were posting?Internet goblins been nibbling at them?
Here's what I posted Tuesday with your reply
Spain kicking off on TM's Brexit deal over Gibraltar - well there's a surprise
As you have raised Spain 'kicking off',perhaps you could inform us what their intervention could actually achieve at this stage?Apart from sod all,that is.
Yesterday's headline
Brexit: May gives way over Gibraltar after Spain's 'veto' threat
Theresa May has given way to Madrid’s demands over the future of Gibraltar after the Spanish prime minister threatened to “veto” the Brexit deal due to be signed off by EU leaders on Sunday.
The development gives Spain a veto over Gibraltar benefiting from a future trade and security agreement between Brussels and the British government.
The Spanish leader, Pedro Sánchez, reacted immediately, claiming the UK would now have to open talks on “joint sovereignty” of Gibraltar, over which Spain has had a claim since the military dictatorship of Francisco Franco.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/nov/24/brexit-may-gives-way-over-gibraltar-after-spains-veto-threat
Didn't have to look far
The gift that keeps on giving
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nicko31
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She's lost it
There seems to be a section people in the past few weeks that feel sorry for May
I'm not one of them. From the moment she became PM she failed to unite the nation, calling those on the remain side "losers" and casting them aside. Then there was her ridiculous quested backed by Paul Dacre to take the Brexit process away from parliament, then a disaster election that the Tories party lost,.
From that loss she should have gone cross party to find a Brexit solution that would bring a divided country together, instead she ignored it and pressed being pushed around by the ERG / Tory right. Add to that stupid gimicks with blue passports, festivals of Britain and coins and almost bragging about ending FOM (she seems to forget that is actually a huge loss of rights for Britons)
Casting NI aside and now screwing Gib just threatens the first existence of our once "United Kingdom"
What have the Tories done to this country?
Here's what I posted Tuesday with your reply
Yesterday's headline
Brexit: May gives way over Gibraltar after Spain's 'veto' threat
Theresa May has given way to Madrid’s demands over the future of Gibraltar after the Spanish prime minister threatened to “veto” the Brexit deal due to be signed off by EU leaders on Sunday.
The development gives Spain a veto over Gibraltar benefiting from a future trade and security agreement between Brussels and the British government.
The Spanish leader, Pedro Sánchez, reacted immediately, claiming the UK would now have to open talks on “joint sovereignty” of Gibraltar, over which Spain has had a claim since the military dictatorship of Francisco Franco.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/nov/24/brexit-may-gives-way-over-gibraltar-after-spains-veto-threat
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The gift that keeps on giving
Although on this occassion Meg hasn't really got it correct ( nor has the Guardian ). Firstly Spain can't 'veto' the withdrawl agreement alone as it's going to be passed on qualified majority voting. Secondly, according to the BBC, the letter from the UK government to the Spanish didn't offer anything that wasn't already agreed, it just re-worded it. Spain then withdrew their objection. Commetators suggest the original objection was only raised to assist with local Spanish elections which have now concluded.
Meg might need to hang up her ball !