[Politics] Brexit

[vegster]

The arguing goes on and on and so have had enough of the rights and wrongs because we must now make the best of what will be...

What I don't understand now though, when we are about to kick this off in 2017 and begin 'negotiating the best deal for Britain', why would our chief negotiator show his hand so openly in advance?

Am I missing something?

Because he doesn't know what he is doing ! Have a think, we have a team of morons,idiots and chancers propelled into jobs way beyond their abilities trying to achieve the deal of their lives. Fox has had to quit twice due to impropriety, Davis was a distant 2nd place in a Tory leadership election to David Cameron and Boris Johnson is... er, Boris Johnson, plus May is in way over her head, she has her sayings,catchphrases and ideals but no way of delivering any of it and is looking increasingly pathetic at the dispatch box against possibly the most inept Labour leader since Michael Foot.

This is the most important and delicate situation in the last 50 years and we have possibly the weakest and most disorganised group of idiots leaking and haggling with no common purpose.

.We have sleepwalked in to brexit and have messed up big time.

 

[alfredmizen]

Because he doesn't know what he is doing ! Have a think, we have a team of morons,idiots and chancers propelled into jobs way beyond their abilities trying to achieve the deal of their lives. Fox has had to quit twice due to impropriety, Davis was a distant 2nd place in a Tory leadership election to David Cameron and Boris Johnson is... er, Boris Johnson, plus May is in way over her head, she has her sayings,catchphrases and ideals but no way of delivering any of it and is looking increasingly pathetic at the dispatch box against possibly the most inept Labour leader since Michael Foot.

This is the most important and delicate situation in the last 50 years and we have possibly the weakest and most disorganised group of idiots leaking and haggling with no common purpose.

.We have sleepwalked in to brexit and have messed up big time.

David Davis has got more ability in his little finger than all the people you've mentioned plus the labour "front bench" (snigger) , he has actually achieved things in life.

 

[GT49er]

We have sleepwalked in to brexit and have messed up big time.

Be interesting to know how we've messed it up before it's actually happened..................................

 

[pb21]

David Davis has got more ability in his little finger than all the people you've mentioned plus the labour "front bench" (snigger) , he has actually achieved things in life.

Well the ability he has regarding Brexit is less than that of a teenager, considering a teenager won a completion for ideas of a post EU British future from a few years ago, which Davis also entered!

 

[vegster]

David Davis has got more ability in his little finger than all the people you've mentioned plus the labour "front bench" (snigger) , he has actually achieved things in life.

OMG ! Hilarious ! he might have a small amount of ability in his middle finger but only Mrs. Davis would know that... or maybe you ?

 

[vegster]

Be interesting to know how we've messed it up before it's actually happened..................................

Er, we have baled out without a parachute, haven't you noticed ?

 

[afters]

Er, we have baled out without a parachute, haven't you noticed ?

very true. completely ****ed up

 

[alfredmizen]

OMG ! Hilarious ! he might have a small amount of ability in his middle finger but only Mrs. Davis would know that... or maybe you ?

Hilarious ? Why ?

 

[vegster]

Hilarious ? Why ?

Please look back on his " Achievements " see if you can see the contradictions and think.

 

[Steve in Japan]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-15390884

This is a good link IMHO - it's brief but sums up how the UK and the EU got to where we are today over the past 40+ years As we all know, it's not been a smooth path.

The big question could and should have been brought to the voters at least once in the last 3 decades (Maastricht or Lisbon for example). It's a bit awkward now when our much-vaunted Parliamentary democracy has delivered something over 40+ years which it turns out (when you finally get around to asking them) the majority of voters don't want. Awks.

 

[Bob'n'weave]

Brexit Explained
Embrace the madness.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGC5S3ag1q0

 

[wellquickwoody]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-15390884 Awks.

All Cred Gone!

 

[alfredmizen]

Please look back on his " Achievements " see if you can see the contradictions and think.

I have , there are no contradictions.

 

[Steve in Japan]

All Cred Gone!

Not sure I had any cred to lose TBF

 

[cunning fergus]

It would be the right thing to do, in conjuction with others. BoE can just magic up 70Bn for the UK on the back of the leave vote, I am sure we could lend a little to Italian banks.

It may be right to you, but I think you would be in a very small minority that would be supporting a policy of UK taxpayers underwriting the profligacy of Italian banks, and the wider Italian economy.

What's more is that it wouldn't be a given that other richer EU countries electorates would be in support. In light of the current political position in France there is little to indicate the electorate would support a massive contribution to bail out the Italians.

No doubt you were being a bit tongue-in-cheek, however it is symptomatic of the post Brexit vote that the media are fixated on the UK's relationship with the EU as if the EU is an immovable object, however in the next 6 months the leader of the 2nd biggest economy will have gone, possibly along with the leader of the 3rd who will be replaced by very different leaders, who are Eurosceptic.

Merkel in her election, if she wins will undoubtedly be less powerful...............we need to lift our eyes from our navel.

 

[GT49er]

Er, we have baled out without a parachute, haven't you noticed ?

Oh ffs - going for your Master of Project Fear degree, are we? Awww.....bless!

 

[5ways]

Oh, here we go again. Another prat spouting the myth that the referendum was won by bigots and racists (and he probably thinks 'old' and 'thick' as well) voting leave because they don't like foreigners. It's really rather pathetic.

A little unfair, but a very sizeable proportion of the Leave vote clearly came from older people who were dissatisfied in one way or another about the state of the UK and wanting to 'turn the clock back'. The problem is you can't turn the clock back and the pressures on their services and safety nets are going to be positively effected by leaving the EU - which was the main thrust of the Leave campaign (£350m a week). It is a problem for all mainstream politicians because they can't make promises about cash and jobs because there isn't extra cash for anything and they can't offer better prospects to young people because of the pressures of the gig economy, automation and globalisation. EU just became an opportunity to kick out at all that ills people ( i think).

 

[Pavilionaire]

Lib Dems overturn 23,000 Tory majority and win Richmond Park by- election as new MP Sarah Olney says "F*ck you!" to Brexit. Wonderful woman, marvellous scenes.

 

[GT49er]

Lib Dems overturn 23,000 Tory majority and win Richmond Park by- election as new MP Sarah Olney says "F*ck you!" to Brexit. Wonderful woman, marvellous scenes.

Wealthy self-satisfied London-centric constituency that voted against Brexit elects an anti Brexit MP.


Major shock! Hold the front page!

 

[wellquickwoody]

Wealthy self-satisfied London-centric constituency that voted against Brexit elects an anti Brexit MP.


Major shock! Hold the front page!

23k Tory majority turned to a 2k anti Brexit victory. True electorate feelings beginning to emerge?