[Brighton] Brazen shoplifting in Co Op Hove seafront

[Guinness Boy]

I didn’t know his name - I heard the story from a chap who sits next to me at the Amex when we got talking about Brighton logos on stuff .

 

[BBassic]

Haven't seen a good "oooo chinny reckon" in a long old time.

 

[herecomesaregular]

By these people I meant shop lifters - what’s funny about that ..

Nothing at all, dear.

There is a shop lifting epidemic in this country not "just a co-op and, urgh, the people they attract" issue. M&S near Churchill Sq has a problem too.

 

[WATFORD zero]

Hmm - so why is a blog started on 11th June on GB News is in the Bear Pit?

Did you start it. By “you” I mean any one of the three user ids you use on here, including to vote twice on the same poll?

I’d get out of your glass house if I were you.


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I really hope you're not encouraging people to put 2+2 together to make 5

 

[WATFORD zero]

I don’t mean too , I’ll try to be more careful how I write

Just see how many posts you can go before you feel compelled to mention the price of something

 

[Guinness Boy]

Fair enough. I also like nice things.

Some of your posts do come across as a little highfalutin though and more than a little insular.

You should see the stuff he writes in the Argus comments!

 

[Chicken Run]

Nice little pile on developing here, come on peeps back off a little eh

 

[Triggaaar]

Its not a case of 'I'm poor so i steal', lots of poor people don't steal and certainly not all theft is done by poor people, neither should they need to put their own security in place they need the police and courts to do the job properly.

If it's easy to walk into a shop and browse around while stealing, and then walk out with no consequences, then people will do it. The large chains can employ security to limit this. You can't expect a police officer to stand on the shop door for free, and they're hardly going door-to-door to catch someone for stealing a bottle of alcohol.

 

[Weststander]

Nice little pile on developing here, come on peeps back off a little eh

This. Doesn’t require a lynching party.

 

[Wardy's twin]

If it's easy to walk into a shop and browse around while stealing, and then walk out with no consequences, then people will do it. The large chains can employ security to limit this. You can't expect a police officer to stand on the shop door for free, and they're hardly going door-to-door to catch someone for stealing a bottle of alcohol.

it is too easy because the police are ineffective and the punishment is not enough of a deterrent. The thing is a lot of these people are repeat offenders ,often but not always to feed a habit, get them off the streets and crime goes down significantly. We have become too tolerant of poor standards and before anyone accuses me of being a right wing extremists I can assure you I am not . I am left of centre and see crime (and the Tories) as a threat to the majority of people.

 

[Wardy's twin]

About 20 years ago, I drank fairly regularly in a pub, that was just outside a large Thames Valley town. Shoplifters made a beeline for this place. One lad used to jump on the train, visit Basingstoke every saturday, steal a bicycle and return to the pub. The Landlord would offer up cash and keep these bikes in his cellar. The cleaner told me that he had about 20 at any given time, selling to regulars. I saw women coming in with whole racks of clothing from well known department stores. One night, a lad came in carrying about 6-8 video recorders. They were gone in less than 5 minutes. I saw a couple one night, she carrying boxes of chocolates, him about 6 bottles of champagne. Perfume, watches and jewelry were pedalled constantly.
It was so often you just got used to it. I refused every time. Locals used to say to me..." the big stores can afford it ".....I used to reply....." Yep...because we are all paying for it, through higher prices "
It was shameless stealing and made worse by most of the locals who lapped it up. Some of it was stolen to order. The Landlord was a fence and made no secret of it. I drank there because I knew some guys who frequented it but eventually it just became too distasteful, too tawdry and I took my custom elsewhere.
( This was well before the influx of certain Eastern Europeans, who now dominate this town and many others. So....god knows what it is like now!!! )

Until people report these things then they will continue though agree I might be reticent given the ineptness of the police and judiciary.

 

[Triggaaar]

it is too easy because the police are ineffective and the punishment is not enough of a deterrent.

The punishment is dictated by governments, not the police. And are we seeing this same level of theft from all shops, or are we particularly seeing more of it from that one shop? It appears to be the latter, which suggests that other shops have found a better way to prevent it.

 

[Wardy's twin]

The punishment is dictated by governments, not the police. And are we seeing this same level of theft from all shops, or are we particularly seeing more of it from that one shop? It appears to be the latter, which suggests that other shops have found a better way to prevent it.

As said its not just the police its the whole judicial system, neither are helping to solve the problem sand nor is the attitude 'its only a bottle of alcohol'

I think you will find other shops have problems as well
https://news.sky.com/story/tesco-staff-offered-body-cameras-following-rise-in-assaults-12953829.

Time to get tough IMO.

 

[beorhthelm]

The punishment is dictated by governments, not the police. And are we seeing this same level of theft from all shops, or are we particularly seeing more of it from that one shop? It appears to be the latter, which suggests that other shops have found a better way to prevent it.

yep, security guards.

 

[Wardy's twin]

yep, security guards.

It really isn't a deterrent hence tesco giving people body cams https://news.sky.com/story/tesco-staff-offered-body-cameras-following-rise-in-assaults-12953829.

 

[vegster]

I think that this is a combination of a lack of Police and a legal/penal system that has been financially cut to the bone in combination with a lot of desperate people with little hope. Its a " Perfect Storm " which isnt going away until there is a major rethink of how we go forward as a society.

 

[BN9 BHA]

You should see the stuff he writes in the Argus comments!

 

[beorhthelm]

It really isn't a deterrent hence tesco giving people body cams https://news.sky.com/story/tesco-staff-offered-body-cameras-following-rise-in-assaults-12953829.

in response to attacks on staff, not shopplifting. shoplifters respond to likelihood of being seen and stopped in the act. police and courts are an afterthought. you need better security to deter them. we could have police on every shop entrance but think we can all agree that might not be best use of them.

 

[warmleyseagull]

I agree with your dismay. I think here the best course of action is to raise it with your councillor and with the council housing officer. Explain the whys and where.

Read this several times before I realised you really did say 'raise it with your councillor and with the council housing officer'. Go on then, what do you expect them to say (taking it for granted they would DO FA)?

 

[Wardy's twin]

in response to attacks on staff, not shopplifting. shoplifters respond to likelihood of being seen and stopped in the act. police and courts are an afterthought. you need better security to deter them. we could have police on every shop entrance but think we can all agree that might not be best use of them.

The staff are being attacked often because they challenge the shop lifters .

I agree the police could be used for other things but they are getting less efficient in dealing with crime and that's partly due to an inefficient judiciary process - they waste time catching people only for them to walk free.

Regards security , yes its a 'solution' but what about other crimes often committed by the same people e.g. bike theft or burglary should we all start employing our own security or should we expect our police to be at the fore front of protecting us and society and by extension that means the shops that 'decent' ordinary people go to to shop.