Baldock: Happy or unhappy??
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BensGrandad
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I dont think it is as plain as happy or not more a case of glad to be in the starting XI but would prefer a central role and bewildered as to why we paid so much money for him based on his previous record and then not play him there. Most of us feel the same.
brightonrock
Dodgy Hamstrings
- Jan 1, 2008
- 2,482
Fvcking hell, you're a ray of sunshine aren't you. We win a game and people like you STILL can't resist putting the boot in, it's like misery porn.
You want to point to a miss and say he's crap on that evidence? Well see the arsenal finish for an example of his instinctive finishing through the middle. Didn't even look up to see where the goal was, or the keeper, he just knew to dink it first time. He's not going to score every chance, nobody does, not even Messi. Perhaps give him more than 5 minutes through the middle before you start writing him off as a waste of money.
On a separate note, calling him Ballsack is pretty childish. It's not even slightly funny if you think that's what you're achieving. "No excuses. Sorry."
BensGrandad
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I would like to see him have 6 attempts this evening, that way 1 or 2 might go in. I have no problem any one having a shot if nobody else is better placed.
GingerBeerMan
3-0
- Dec 29, 2011
- 8,037
He's starting out of position though. He scored a great goal against a good arsenal defence when he was playing central. Play him in his natural role and we won't be struggling to score
The Wizard
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- Jul 2, 2009
- 18,383
Spot on. What an idiot that guy comes across.
And to be pedantic he cost £1.5 million, not £2 million.
supaseagull
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It's the Argus. Their track record for accurately quoting players is hardly the best
Bold Seagull
strong and stable with me, or...
Not shown enough for me that I'd risk starting him as our centre forward. Right now I'd feel more comfortable with Best and COG ahead of him. I'd toss a coin for the whether I'm give him the nod ahead of CMS if it came to that.
He's lightweight, his decision making is actually slow (despite him being quick), he takes an extra touch when he needs to get it away quick, and as on Saturday when he's got time to take an extra touch, he rushes his shot and ends up finding the back of the stand. I'm finding his movement frustrating, he works as hard as anyone, but he seems to be inside when we need width, out wide when we need someone attacking the box.
Maybe it will all click for him. I wasn't that impressed with him Saturday, perhaps people are saying he had a good game simply because he wasn't poor?
He needs to take a look at Kayal. Now there is a player always wanting the ball, always taking up good positions, and someone who is making decisions instantly mostly with attacking intent. Very excited by Kayal, hope he can have a positive impact on the likes of Baldock.
He's lightweight, his decision making is actually slow (despite him being quick), he takes an extra touch when he needs to get it away quick, and as on Saturday when he's got time to take an extra touch, he rushes his shot and ends up finding the back of the stand. I'm finding his movement frustrating, he works as hard as anyone, but he seems to be inside when we need width, out wide when we need someone attacking the box.
Maybe it will all click for him. I wasn't that impressed with him Saturday, perhaps people are saying he had a good game simply because he wasn't poor?
He needs to take a look at Kayal. Now there is a player always wanting the ball, always taking up good positions, and someone who is making decisions instantly mostly with attacking intent. Very excited by Kayal, hope he can have a positive impact on the likes of Baldock.
Easy 10
Brain dead MUG SHEEP
Our "strikers" this season:
Baldock - 3 goals
CMS - 3 goals
COG - 2 goals
Embarrassing. And this is from players who have ALL scored regularly at their former clubs before arriving here. You can question their ability, or in what league they scored their goals, but there also comes a point when you have to ask whether we are deploying them properly, or enabling them to play to their strengths. Its all well and good saying Baldock should adapt, or that he played well on Saturday and put some decent crosses in - which he did. But he was brought here supposedly as a goalscorer. So he should be playing off someone, down the middle. Is it any surprise all our strikers have such ABYSMAL stats when they're brought in and asked to play a totally different role to what they have built their careers on ?
The most important part of a managers job is getting the best out of what he has available to him, getting the most out of his players. When it comes to strikers, aside from with Ulloa, I don't think we've seen anyone in the Amex era achieve that.
Baldock - 3 goals
CMS - 3 goals
COG - 2 goals
Embarrassing. And this is from players who have ALL scored regularly at their former clubs before arriving here. You can question their ability, or in what league they scored their goals, but there also comes a point when you have to ask whether we are deploying them properly, or enabling them to play to their strengths. Its all well and good saying Baldock should adapt, or that he played well on Saturday and put some decent crosses in - which he did. But he was brought here supposedly as a goalscorer. So he should be playing off someone, down the middle. Is it any surprise all our strikers have such ABYSMAL stats when they're brought in and asked to play a totally different role to what they have built their careers on ?
The most important part of a managers job is getting the best out of what he has available to him, getting the most out of his players. When it comes to strikers, aside from with Ulloa, I don't think we've seen anyone in the Amex era achieve that.
I've been a big critic of Burke and think most of our signings this season are/have been tripe but I think (based on what I've seen) Baldock is leaps and bounds better than CMS. He's intelligent, a hard worker, and has a decent first touch. His finishing has been hit and miss but I do wonder how I'd rate him if he played up front as he'd get many more chances... His ball in for Calde's first on Friday was quality, wing play that has been very rare for us this season.
Uncle C
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I think he is just a bit embarrassed at his lack of goals and this is his way of apologising to fans.
Megazone
On his last warning
We should get Michael Owen back, this time as a coach.
Meade's Ball
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Judging him on Saturday's showing he can certainly whip a baĺl in. If we find him the space to do that, or inject in him more of the will and dare to find it himself, then he'll be a real asset. Mix that up with cutting inside without the ball and breaking through, as we saw him do in occasion, then he can get back into the habit of slotting a few beauties home as he wishes.
Uncle C
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I always find it ironic that if a team is losing in the last 10 minutes then managers revert to 2 up front to get a goal - if its that good at getting goals lets have it from the start.
Some managers start with 2 up front - have you ever heard of them switching to 1 up front to get a goal in the dying moments?
thisistips
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Misery porn; great phrase. Misery porn is the new bed wetting.
Misery porn; great phrase. Misery porn is the new bed wetting.
brightonmark1234
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yeh but leon best hasnt been holding the ball up for us since he been starting in recent games
Pavilionaire
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- Jul 7, 2003
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It's difficult because while I hear what Baldock is saying about being played out of position he's been presented with a good number of gilt-edged, one-on-one chances that he's missed spectacularly.
What I find irksome is that we'd already paid big money for CMS and found that he didn't work in a lone striker role or, for that matter, with Ashley Barnes. Yet the club made 6 bids so were determined to buy Baldock who, fundamentally, comes from the same mould as CMS, i.e. short, bustling, operates at his best when with a strike partner.
It was SO obvious that we should have got a decent replacement for Ulloa. It would have made more sense to try and get Murray and Chris Wood, rather than O'Grady and Baldock.
For me the jury is still out on Baldock. With loans ending and players out of contract we'll have to bring in 11-13 players this summer just to replace what we've got. I don't see much point in getting rid of Baldock and making that 12-14 players. I do like the guy's work rate, and if he left us I think he'd score goals for his next club, but all the while Teixeira is here I can't see Baldock playing up top by himself or with a strike partner.
What I find irksome is that we'd already paid big money for CMS and found that he didn't work in a lone striker role or, for that matter, with Ashley Barnes. Yet the club made 6 bids so were determined to buy Baldock who, fundamentally, comes from the same mould as CMS, i.e. short, bustling, operates at his best when with a strike partner.
It was SO obvious that we should have got a decent replacement for Ulloa. It would have made more sense to try and get Murray and Chris Wood, rather than O'Grady and Baldock.
For me the jury is still out on Baldock. With loans ending and players out of contract we'll have to bring in 11-13 players this summer just to replace what we've got. I don't see much point in getting rid of Baldock and making that 12-14 players. I do like the guy's work rate, and if he left us I think he'd score goals for his next club, but all the while Teixeira is here I can't see Baldock playing up top by himself or with a strike partner.
I bet he is glad I am not the Manager. I would play as reserve right back and send him for extra training sessions to learn how to shoot, whilst secretly sounding out if we could dobbie him out on a permanent transfer to Palace.
I hope he proves me wrong.
I thought he played quite well in his role until he it came down to shooting.
I hope he proves me wrong.
I thought he played quite well in his role until he it came down to shooting.
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I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the fact he, and the rest of the squad, should be feckin unhappy.
They've pissed around the relegation places all season.
Failed to win all season without get hammered (excluding first half v Derby).
Defended like strangers.
Attacked like sloths.
Win as a team, lose as a team.
Start putting more into the game and everyone will be happy.
The only player who is happy this season is the one who's contributed nothing, except walking to the bank laughing.
They've pissed around the relegation places all season.
Failed to win all season without get hammered (excluding first half v Derby).
Defended like strangers.
Attacked like sloths.
Win as a team, lose as a team.
Start putting more into the game and everyone will be happy.
The only player who is happy this season is the one who's contributed nothing, except walking to the bank laughing.