Are the Playoffs out of reach?

[Camicus]

Nope I think we blew it by Brum. However NEXT year we are going to tear the championship up

 

[Neecha]

That's actually quite a decent post. Ok not sure we have bought in more top class players than out promotion rivals though, have we? We certainly haven't spent more than most of them.

For what it's worth, I agree that Poyet needs to be brave and go for it now. Draws are no use. I don't necessarily see that we need to play two up front though, especially as we aren't used to playing that way. A formation including Ulloa, Vicente, Orlandi, Buckley etc can still be very attacking, we don't necessarily need two strikers. We just need to go for it right from the start at home, get a couple of goals and then close the game out.

Defo needs to gamble a bit more but he hasn't since he took over so why now? Also not at all convinced about Vicente. We don't look dramatically better when he has played.

 

[Seagulls1984]

If we lose next to games bottom 3 will be within touching distance!

 

[footychick]

It aint over til it's over

 

[SeagullSongs]

Crazy that some people think the playoffs are out of reach.

You lot do realise that we get 3 points for a win, 1 for a draw and there are 17 games left to play, right??

And just as crazy that some people think we deserve to be in the play-offs! I'm pretty relaxed about it.

If we finish in the play-offs I'll be delighted, 7th-9th and I'll be glad we've made progress but slightly disappointed to just miss out on, 10th would be a little more disappointing, anything lower would be frustrating.

 

[Neecha]

anything lower than 10th and with whats been spent will TB be looking elsewhere, I hope not!

 

[kevtherev]

That's actually quite a decent post. Ok not sure we have bought in more top class players than out promotion rivals though, have we? We certainly haven't spent more than most of them.

For what it's worth, I agree that Poyet needs to be brave and go for it now. Draws are no use. I don't necessarily see that we need to play two up front though, especially as we aren't used to playing that way. A formation including Ulloa, Vicente, Orlandi, Buckley etc can still be very attacking, we don't necessarily need two strikers. We just need to go for it right from the start at home, get a couple of goals and then close the game out.

What has baffled me for a while now, is do you remember when we went 3-5-2 against Millwall and changed it back very quickly after about 30 mins, when it was clearly not working A few points about this.1 He went to that system 3 days after a Saturday game, surely not enough time to work on it, unless. 2. They have played it in training,in which case they either knew what they were doing and just had a very bad night, or it was a terrible tactical change and not thought out. 3. I actually believe with the players in our squad, this could be our most effective system, with a bit of work. Three centre backs, with Bridcutt playing the middle(sweeper-ish role), Bridge and Bruno/Calderon pushing on providing the width. Vicente/Lopez/Orlandi playing just behing a front two, of Ulloa and Cms/Hoskins, with two midfielders a little deeper either side of the Vicente role. What a fantastic, attacking line up and totally suited to our better players.

-------------------------------TK-------------------------
---------------Upson-----------------ElAbd/Greer---------
----------------------------Bridcutt----------------------
Bruno/Calderon--------------------------------------Bridge
---------------Buckley/Lopez-------Lualua/Orlandi---------
---------------------------Vicente-------------------------
-------------------Hoskins/Cms-----Ulloa-------------------


That is the side and formation to win 11 games out of 17,,shit or bust!!!!

 

[5 Zero]

Nope I think we blew it by Brum. However NEXT year we are going to tear the championship up

You lot say that every year

Listen, looking at your remaining fixtures it is going to be very tough, can only see 2 or 3 easy games there. But one club normally puts a run together between now and the end of the season, it could be you. But my gut instinct is that you will fall short and finish 8th or 9th.

 

[kevtherev]

Defo needs to gamble a bit more but he hasn't since he took over so why now? Also not at all convinced about Vicente. We don't look dramatically better when he has played.

It was a terrible decision, to activate the clause in his contract, we should have just let him go. Is it four games he has been back for now Fantastic player, but a liability to the team, unless he actually wants to play....I really hope he makes a difference I might add, but it's not looking good atm.

 

[KZNSeagull]

anything lower than 10th and with whats been spent will TB be looking elsewhere, I hope not!

Nope. Read the thread from Sheebo about the meeting last night with Paul Barber. Gus has huge pulling power and is a main reason why certain players are here and why we are being offered big name players. I would think it will take a lot more than finishing lower than 10th to get rid of him - bad luck Kev!

 

[mejonaNO12 aka riskit]

No.

There's 51 points to play for. We have 5 points to make up.

I hope that helps

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Fantastic player, but a liability to the team,.

Eh?

Please explain to me how VICENTE is a liability to the team?

 

[KZNSeagull]

It was a terrible decision, to activate the clause in his contract, we should have just let him go. Is it four games he has been back for now Fantastic player, but a liability to the team, unless he actually wants to play....I really hope he makes a difference I might add, but it's not looking good atm.

If he is a liability, why have you picked him in your team?

 

[kevtherev]

No.

There's 51 points to play for. We have 5 points to make up.

I hope that helps

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Eh?

Please explain to me how VICENTE is a liability to the team?

Anyone who's heart is not in it is a liability to the side and what they are trying to achieve. I don't believe he wants to be here, that makes him a liability. I hope he proves me wrong.

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If he is a liability, why have you picked him in your team?

Because if he wants, to play and is up for it, that in my mind is our best team. If not stick Lopez in that role.

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Nope. Read the thread from Sheebo about the meeting last night with Paul Barber. Gus has huge pulling power and is a main reason why certain players are here and why we are being offered big name players. I would think it will take a lot more than finishing lower than 10th to get rid of him - bad luck Kev!

Part of the problem with a lot of people on this board, is they believe everything that comes out of the club. People like Barber are not going to tell a meeting off fans, anything they don't want them to know. Just just the way it is, same as in politics.....Not saying that is wrong, that is their job.

 

[mejonaNO12 aka riskit]

Anyone who's heart is not in it is a liability to the side and what they are trying to achieve. I don't believe he wants to be here, that makes him a liability. I hope he proves me wrong.

Whether this his ideal club or not doesn't make any difference.

If he tries 100%, which I believe EVERY professional does, then he is not a liability.

The guy played for Valencia and SPAIN for crying out loud. He is a PROFESSIONAL.

Do you honestly think, when watching him, that he's not trying?

Tevez even f***ed off abroad, the clearest indication he didnt want to be at City last year, but he came back and helped them win the title with some ridiculous work rate and quality. A footballer will give their all on the pitch. It's their job.

 

[KZNSeagull]

I don't believe he wants to be here, that makes him a liability.

Have you watched the Ulloa transfer video? Whilst anecdotal, he did not look like someone who does not want to be here in that.

How will he prove you wrong?

 

[HawkTheSeagull]

No, there's plenty of games left to start winning.

If we were to be 10 points off though - then we can kiss them goodbye.

 

[kevtherev]

Whether this his ideal club or not doesn't make any difference.

If he tries 100%, which I believe EVERY professional does, then he is not a liability.

The guy played for Valencia and SPAIN for crying out loud. He is a PROFESSIONAL.

Do you honestly think, when watching him, that he's not trying?

Tevez even f***ed off abroad, the clearest indication he didnt want to be at City last year, but he came back and helped them win the title with some ridiculous work rate and quality. A footballer will give their all on the pitch. It's their job.

If you really really believe, that every footballer gives 100%. Then I can't debate any point with you. Because I certainly don't believe that is the case and never has been and never will be.

 

[KZNSeagull]

Part of the problem with a lot of people on this board, is they believe everything that comes out of the club. People like Barber are not going to tell a meeting off fans, anything they don't want them to know. Just just the way it is, same as in politics.....Not saying that is wrong, that is their job.

Well I am more inclined to believe them before I believe anything you say, put it that way.

Why on earth would he make something like that up? You sir, need to get over this "I hate Poyet" fixation and move on.

 

[mejonaNO12 aka riskit]

If you really really believe, that every footballer gives 100%. Then I can't debate any point with you. Because I certainly don't believe that is the case and never has been and never will be.

Point to me a footballer who you don't think actually tries.

I'd be fascinated to know.

If a footballer is not trying the crowd will pick up on it in SECONDS. I have never seen one for the Albion. Leon Knight was the closest.

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If you really really believe, that every footballer gives 100%. Then I can't debate any point with you. Because I certainly don't believe that is the case and never has been and never will be.

Also well done for avoiding the issue of whether or not you think Vicente is trying.

Clearly you have made a statement indicating Vicente is a liability...and now have nothing to back it up.

 

[GingerBeerMan]

how well any new tactics work.

New tactics? Gus? Nope, can't see it.