Adam johnson sacked

[perseus]

Grooming
Starting points: 2 years custody if the victim is 13 or over but under 16
Sentencing ranges: 1 - 4 years custody
http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/s_to_u/sentencing_manual/s15_grooming/

Sexual activity with a child
It depends on the activity. There seems to be a general belief, and the latest article link seems to concur that this was kissing. This would come under "Contact between part of offender's body (other than the genitalia) with part of the victim's body (other than the genitalia)"
Starting points: Community order
Sentencing ranges: An appropriate non-custodial sentence
http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/s_to_u/sentencing_manual/s9_sexual_activity_with_a_child/ (includes recommendations for other types of contact)

The links also contain aggravation and mitigation that can affect the sentencing.

Thta's the UK for you. What if it was in Germany?

 

[lawros left foot]

Judge has said 4-10 years. Sentencing in 2-3 weeks. Out on bail.

Would he get that long if he was Joe Blogs, plumbers mate? I doubt it, isnt justice meant to be blind?
I don't endorse anything he has done, but 4-10 years is an awfully long stretch for what he has pleaded guilty to, and one charge of petting that he pleaded not guilty too.

 

[Paul Reids Sock]

Would he get that long if he was Joe Blogs, plumbers mate? I doubt it, isnt justice meant to be blind?
I don't endorse anything he has done, but 4-10 years is an awfully long stretch for what he has pleaded guilty to, and one charge of petting that he pleaded not guilty too.

Was just thinking the same thing.

I swear that there have been rapists get less time? It does seem a bit lengthy

 

[Iamapen15]

What he has decided me holds a maximum of 14 years!

 

[Iamapen15]

He's been found guilty of a sexual act bring performed on him...

 

[sir albion]

Christ you'll get longer if you have a football brawl these days...I get seriously perplexed with sentences in this country.

 

[spence]

Would he get that long if he was Joe Blogs, plumbers mate? I doubt it, isnt justice meant to be blind?
I don't endorse anything he has done, but 4-10 years is an awfully long stretch for what he has pleaded guilty to, and one charge of petting that he pleaded not guilty too.

Very much this

 

[BensGrandad]

The judge will give him a lengthy sentence just to show that wealth or notoriety does not lesson the punishment and to be shown as a lesson to others.

 

[sir albion]

The judge will give him a lengthy sentence just to show that wealth or notoriety does not lesson the punishment and to be shown as a lesson to others.

Maybe,but I bet he gets released earlier than he should.

 

[GDC]

http://www.sussex.police.uk/whats-h...tenced-over-sex-offences-against-teenage-girl

3 years 7 months for full sex with a 14 year old last year.

 

[Sheebo]

He's been found guilty of a sexual act bring performed on him...

Think he was found NOT guilty of that mate...?

 

[sir albion]

http://www.sussex.police.uk/whats-h...tenced-over-sex-offences-against-teenage-girl

3 years 7 months for full sex with a 14 year old last year.

Very good comparison

 

[Surf's Up]

Maybe,but I bet he gets released earlier than he should.

You may be right - but he'll have a pretty grim time inside while he's there.

 

[Iamapen15]

Apologies, I thought the radio had said guilty, but you're right he was cleared of oral and guilty of touching...

 

[Acker79]

Cases involving celebrities are always thought to either be harsher because they are a celebrity, or more lenient because they are a celebrity.

There is a certain power celebrities have over fans, and the abuse of that should be, imo, consider on a par with the abuse of powers teachers in similar circumstances (or doctors, police, etc). So I wouldn't criticise the judge if he is being stricter with it.

However, I suspect it is simply what the guidelines say, and people are projecting biases onto it that don't actually exist.

 

[lawros left foot]

Cases involving celebrities are always thought to either be harsher because they are a celebrity, or more lenient because they are a celebrity.

There is a certain power celebrities have over fans, and the abuse of that should be, imo, consider on a par with the abuse of powers teachers in similar circumstances (or doctors, police, etc). So I wouldn't criticise the judge if he is being stricter with it.

However, I suspect it is simply what the guidelines say, and people are projecting biases onto it that don't actually exist.

I know it's going back a few years, but when Tony Adams went down for drink driving, the Judge actually said he was giving him six months(well over the top, at the time) as a deterrent to other young men.I've no sympathy with footballers who break the law in general, but I do feel, they should be treated the same as the rest of us, or the principal of blind justice isn't being adhered to.

 

[Prince Monolulu]

So, me being a bit slow here, did he tell the club he was innocent, kept playing and getting a salary until last few weeks when he went guilty?

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Seems very odd to me that the jury felt they could come to the conclusion of one and not the other when both were one persons word against the other (seemingly from the reports I have read)

Might have something to do with the judge saying he would accept a majority rule I guess?

By no means a criticism, question of their ability, just an observation. What an utterly stupid man to have all of that, a beautiful girlfriend and a kid born to not only cheat but with a 15 year old!

Doesn't strike me as odd to convict on a more vague charge rather than a more specific one. And there was other evidence, it wasn't just his word against hers; there was a slew of text messages for starters.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

So, me being a bit slow here, did he tell the club he was innocent, kept playing and getting a salary until last few weeks when he went guilty?

It seems this is the case. But it is a fact he stated total innocence until the last minute...only he knows why this was.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

So, me being a bit slow here, did he tell the club he was innocent, kept playing and getting a salary until last few weeks when he went guilty?

I'm sure that I heard it reported earlier that he admitted grooming and kissing to the club a year ago. They allowed him to keep playing, and the girl involved suffered all sorts of mental anguish, being called a liar etc. If I have interpreted this correctly, Sunderland don't come out of it well.