Mackenzie
Old Brightonian
Absolutely. Tony Bloom is a shrewd fella, this is hurting him as much as us. I'd have sacked Hyypia weeks ago (I think he's hopeless), BUT I'm happy to trust his judgement. Sorry Attila, Harty and the rest.
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Brighton & Hove Albion - a most remarkable football club
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Peter_Taylor
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I think you are right. I would go further and say that this is another key point in the history of the club. I think that it goes further than who is manager at the end of the week, or even what division we are in at the end of the season, it is a struggle for the SOUL of the football club. We will know pretty soon who actually does run this football club is it Tony Bloom or will he eventually bow to the pressure of a growing and increasingly hostile band of supporters.
If he toughs it out and SH eventually puts a run of victories together then he will be able to take stock at the end of the season and make strategic decision for the future of the club. However, if he gives way after sticking his neck out time and time again in support of Sami then every decision he makes in future will be subject to equal scrutiny and criticism. The supporters target will move on to Burke and Barber and on and on. The doomsday scenario may be that Bloom thinks enough is enough and flogs the club. Hey, that may be the making of the club and we would end up with proper fans' representation on the board.
ROSM
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You are right of course. There are so many clubs up and down the country who are squeezing their fans until the pips squeak and bombarding them with marketing 101 style campaigns
In that sense we are normal. Doesnt make it right though. And is something I desperately hoped we wouldn't become. I believed that a lifelong fan with sound business sense such as Tony Bloom who is a god to all albion fans (quite rightly) would not do that
I will be going to the Boxing Day game, primarily for the very simple reason that I have never in my life seen the Albion play football on Boxing Day. If Sami is still in charge in the new year, however, I too will cease attending matches. It's no longer an enjoyable day out for me.
martin tyler
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- Jan 25, 2013
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Spot on. The club seem to have disengaged with fans and what we want.
martin tyler
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- Jan 25, 2013
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This and its quite sad to see
Tony Meolas Loan Spell
Slut Faced Whores
I wonder if thats the plan and Barber is being bonused as such., Wouldnt surprise me at all.
Tony Meolas Loan Spell
Slut Faced Whores
Well a few more will carry on voting with their feel like ROSM. In fact its quite sad hearing long standing, grizzled veteran Albion fans thinking of throwing the towel in 
Im close mysellf I will admit all the while that ****wit is in charge.
Im close mysellf I will admit all the while that ****wit is in charge.
martin tyler
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This is spot on. He has a 12% win ration in that time. That should be enough to get anyone sacked. Not sure what the board are watching as i do not see any light at the end of the tunnel. The only thing special about the board currently is that thy appear to have gone blind or they are to pig headed to admit they have made a mistake.
We were playing like a Premier League side under Poyet, and if he had had Ulloa all season I think we would have made it. How we've managed to go from "We're ****ing brilliant" to where we are now is almost unfathomable.
Fans will put up with Barber's marketing talk when things are going well on the pitch, but as soon as you take your eye off what's important (i.e the TEAM) the whole house of cards fall down. Poyet knew that. That's why he wanted out if the on-field investment wasn't where he wanted it to be. We hit the ceiling, good and proper.
Someone, at some level, is being extremely stubborn. It's time they woke up and smelt the coffee. If we're struggling to operate under FFP in the Championship, you just wait and see us sink without trace in League One.
Fans will put up with Barber's marketing talk when things are going well on the pitch, but as soon as you take your eye off what's important (i.e the TEAM) the whole house of cards fall down. Poyet knew that. That's why he wanted out if the on-field investment wasn't where he wanted it to be. We hit the ceiling, good and proper.
Someone, at some level, is being extremely stubborn. It's time they woke up and smelt the coffee. If we're struggling to operate under FFP in the Championship, you just wait and see us sink without trace in League One.
spanish flair
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I feel now, that we are no longer fans or even customers, but just little BHA bank accounts that Barber feels he has the right to draw from at will.
Lincoln Imp
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- Feb 2, 2009
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Ten years ago, on the first Saturday afternoon of the close season, I bumped into a bored-looking ROSM in Currys. My worry is that the next time that happens it won't be the close season.
Right now, the club is machine gunning itself in the foot.
Personally, I've never really had a problem with this idea that the club becomes more "customer focussed", I really haven't. Because in reality, that simply means being aware of how the supporters feel and doing things to improve value for money.
But nothing about this club shows it being customer focussed at all. Utterly turd business in the summer, followed by bland nose-tapping "a team you will pleased with" arrogance, and 3 months on with 99% of season ticket holders wanting the manager out, and the club dead bats everything. They've not met the disgruntlement with anything approaching empathy. It is disgraceful to be honest. WTF are these people being paid their absurd salaries for?
But nothing about this club shows it being customer focussed at all. Utterly turd business in the summer, followed by bland nose-tapping "a team you will pleased with" arrogance, and 3 months on with 99% of season ticket holders wanting the manager out, and the club dead bats everything. They've not met the disgruntlement with anything approaching empathy. It is disgraceful to be honest. WTF are these people being paid their absurd salaries for?
Lincoln Imp
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And likewise, everything you say is correct. Unfortunately though, Sami is the result of a shambles not the cause of it.
Lincoln Imp
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If they only thing you're worrying about is the manager needing to be sacked I am deeply jealous.
Birdie Boy
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portslade seagull
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Feel much the same ROSM can't see any reason for me to renew my ST after 28yrs and have missed the last 2-games and will give Reading a miss as well ( Unless Hyppia leaves or is sacked b4 then )
Ernest
Stupid IDIOT
Missed the last 2 matches myself and don't feel I'm missing a lot now, the heart has been ripped out of the club
somerset
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I have been watching regularly since mid seventies ( a few gaps here and there)..... but no more.....I feel sorry for the newer fans, they have had all their 'new-stadium' hopes dashed.Well a few more will carry on voting with their feel like ROSM. In fact its quite sad hearing long standing, grizzled veteran Albion fans thinking of throwing the towel in
Im close mysellf I will admit all the while that ****wit is in charge.
Our back story is remarkable for sure, and if Sami is kept on and gets us to mid-table mediocrity, that would be another, much smaller, chapter in the book as it would give us bragging rights over clubs that get rid of the manager at a drop of a hat (or even, given our run of form, at the drop of every single stitch of clothing).
I can't believe TB doesn't see our league position is unacceptable (he'd have to be just plain stupid, which we know he isn't). Nor can I believe that he'd just accept us walking into L1, still less that there is a grand plan to get relegated, as some have postulated. The only explanations I can see for the current lack of action are:
1 TB believes that Sami will turn it round &/or
2 TB doesn't want to pay Sami off &/or
3 irrespective of 1 and 2, TB believes that he should give Sami every last opportunity to turn it round, even if he doesn't think it will happen. You know - common decency.
Personally, I don't think Sami will or even can turn it round. I don't think he can motivate the players any longer, irrespective of formation, team selection or tactics. Sami needs to go; the sooner the better.
While I'm expressing opinions, I might as well go the whole hog:
David Burke out too - the ratio of good players to bad brought in isn't high enough for my liking, and it seems that the ratio has worsened since Gus left, indicating, to me, that a decent amount of kudos for the good players we did bring in belongs fairly to Gus.
Paul Barber in though. He's done what I understand to be his job pretty well as far as I can see. I attach little blame to him for the on-the-pitch woes, although it does seem that there was antipathy between him and Gus, which may have played a part in Gus' departure, so he may well have had an indirect effect on the on-the-pitch situation. Also, I'm not at all convinced that a replacement for PB would be any better than PB himself - indeed it's quite likely s/he'd be worse.
I can't believe TB doesn't see our league position is unacceptable (he'd have to be just plain stupid, which we know he isn't). Nor can I believe that he'd just accept us walking into L1, still less that there is a grand plan to get relegated, as some have postulated. The only explanations I can see for the current lack of action are:
1 TB believes that Sami will turn it round &/or
2 TB doesn't want to pay Sami off &/or
3 irrespective of 1 and 2, TB believes that he should give Sami every last opportunity to turn it round, even if he doesn't think it will happen. You know - common decency.
Personally, I don't think Sami will or even can turn it round. I don't think he can motivate the players any longer, irrespective of formation, team selection or tactics. Sami needs to go; the sooner the better.
While I'm expressing opinions, I might as well go the whole hog:
David Burke out too - the ratio of good players to bad brought in isn't high enough for my liking, and it seems that the ratio has worsened since Gus left, indicating, to me, that a decent amount of kudos for the good players we did bring in belongs fairly to Gus.
Paul Barber in though. He's done what I understand to be his job pretty well as far as I can see. I attach little blame to him for the on-the-pitch woes, although it does seem that there was antipathy between him and Gus, which may have played a part in Gus' departure, so he may well have had an indirect effect on the on-the-pitch situation. Also, I'm not at all convinced that a replacement for PB would be any better than PB himself - indeed it's quite likely s/he'd be worse.